Pioneer's DEH-P3900MP CD receiver will handle the demands of your digital musical collection. The 16-character display doesn't cut off your song and artist info, like common 8-character displays will. In addition to MP3 and WMA formats, the DEH-P3900MP plays AAC files, so you won't have to convert your iTunes files to MP3 format when you burn them to disc.

Whatever you play, the strong onboard amplifier will make it sound great. If you need big time power, use the three sets of preamp outputs to connect external amps to your system — you can use the high- and low-pass filters to tailor the sound to match your speakers. Make quick sound adjustments with Easy EQ's six preset tone curves, or dive into the highly adjustable bass, midrange, and treble controls for custom tuning.

This versatile receiver will control your iPod® with an optional adapter. Or, if your ears are tuned to the heavens, connect a satellite radio instead. Like keeping it simple? Just plug your player of choice into the handy front-panel auxiliary input for a direct audio connection. Use the included remote to control your Pioneer receiver while you keep your eyes on the road.

Product Highlights:

    General features:
    • CD receiver with built-in MOSFET amplifier (22 watts RMS/50 peak x 4 channels)
    • plays CDs, CD-Rs, and CD-RWs (including discs loaded with MP3, WMA and AAC files — will not play rights-protected files)
    • detachable face
    • remote control
    Audio features:
    • Easy EQ 3-band equalizer with six preset tone settings
    • loudness
    • high- and low-pass filters and subwoofer level control
    • compatible with optional Pioneer iPod adapter, satellite radio, CD changer
    • inputs: front-panel auxiliary input
    • outputs: three sets of preamp outputs
    • compatible with most factory steering wheel audio controls (adapter required)
    Other info:

    Why replace your factory radio?

    Two good reasons - sound quality and cool features. A new car stereo offers power that's superior to most factory radios, along with more sophisticated tone controls. And most car stereos offer built-in or optional features that add safety and fun to life in your car, including inputs for your iPod or MP3 player, Bluetooth connectivity for hands-free cell phone calls, satellite radio or HD Radio reception, and connections for building an audio system in your car.

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    Exceptional Value

    Written By oedius4570, Abilene, TX on Monday, February 23, 2009

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    I have had this unit for a little over a year now and, if anything, I appreciate it even more the longer I use it. Sure, I suppose one could nitpick anything to death, even the costliest units. This was my very first install of anything to do with car audio. I installed this along with four Infinity Reference full range speakers and Infinity Basslink II POWERED SUBWOOFER with expansion module (4-channel amp) in my 2005 sATURN iON-1. Thanks to Crutchfield, it all went great.
    The Pioneer DEH-P3900MP is a rock solid, clean & powerful head unit. It plays all my CD's without a hitch. Yes, the volume knob can be a bit sensitive but, I would refer to it as major problem. And I happen to think the blue light sets it off nicely.

    All the functionality without the frills

    Written By myriad1973, Toledo, OH on Saturday, August 02, 2008

    Great receiver for the money if you looking for great functionality and room to expand without all the bells and whistles.


    Written By James, Prescott Valley, AZ on Wednesday, July 02, 2008

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    I bought this for my 92 civic and it has been great. Installation was easy and the cd player works great.

    Pioneer DEH-P3900MP

    Written By Yuri, Fair Lawn, NJ on Monday, June 02, 2008

    I purchased this unit in September of 2008 and had major problems with it. I cannot recommend this product to anyone. Here is my list of issues:

    1. Fails to read/play many of my CDs, both commercially stamped and burned CD-Rs. The problems (clicking, skipping, distortion, error 30) are especially common on tracks past #4 or #5.
    2. Radio reception is very poor for both AM and FM.
    3. Audio through the AUX input sounds muffled and lifeless.

    To be fair, when the untit does work, the sound is better than that of the factory receiver. The MP3 functionality is good also.

    good reciever for the money

    Written By mike, ellington, ct on Tuesday, April 29, 2008

    i bought this unit as a replacement for my sony unit, which had a motorized faceplate that decided to stop working. i also had the factory head unit installed for a while and that stopped working for some reason, so i had to replace it. i always liked pioneer, and have one in my 94 ranger, so i decided to get one for my 2002 protege as well. i picked this one out for the price and the functionality of the unit. it has awesome sound, alot of cool ways to tune it, and i have a great sounding system now. lots of power when paired to my alpine speakers and 1100 watt amp with 3 12's. it actually made my trunk open at one point but sounded clear as a bell.

    my only suffice is i cannot for the life of me figure out how to set the clock. the instructions are clear but do not work. also, the volume knob is hard to turn, but i can deal with it.

    excellent deal for the money

    Pioneer DEH-P3900MP

    Written By Jeff, Richmond, VA on Friday, February 08, 2008

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    I got this for my 90 eclipse, and had a littel problems installing it, but not because of quality. Since installing, I have appreciated all the features available, and would recomend this product to anyone who asked me about it.

    Not Bad

    Written By Jeffrey, South Texas on Monday, February 04, 2008

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    This is a decently priced satellite ready radio that sounds great. I have other pioneers and their faceplate interfaces with the XM reciever are straight forward. This one is not. However the remote operates the same which what we use. The small buttons around the volume control might be a problem for a person with large fingers.

    Pioneer DEH-P3900MP

    Written By gdpadil, NM on Monday, February 04, 2008

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    Product works great. Installation was easy. Very happy with service I recieved from Crutchfield. I will do business with them again.

    Pioneer DEH-P3900MP

    Written By Chad, Hanford, Ca on Monday, February 04, 2008

    Great radio for the price. has all the major features one needs.

    Excellent Stereo

    Written By Tim, Crane, Texas on Saturday, January 26, 2008

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    Pioneer has always made great stereos.
    I realize that this unit is not top of the line but for the everyday guy like me, it is excellent.


    Written By BRUCE, Crystal Lake,IL on Monday, January 21, 2008

    Great Pioneer product, great Crutchfield instructions and installation kits, just solder up included wiring harness adapter,install receiver and your ready to go(plug-n-play)! Works great with stock GM components, plan on upgrading speakers and adding sub-woofer in future.

    Manual needs to be more unstandable

    Written By Rico, Gulfport, MS on Thursday, January 17, 2008

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    The manual was not that unstandable, could of been me....
    But the receiver is great, also the speakers(4x6's) they jam....
    Now I need to get a sub/maybe a preamp to go behind my seat....somthing that will let the seat go all the way back...
    It's a '93 Chevy Reg. Cab......

    Thank for the great deal and product. ........looking for a great deal again.....
    Will buy again; for sure ......

    2002 VW Jetta

    Written By Darren, VA on Sunday, December 23, 2007

    Excellent sound; easy to install. Combined with XM tuner for seamless install. Note on the 2002 Jetta: When ordering I was given a warning that some dash modification was needed. I found that no modifying was fit perfect!

    Excellent For The Money!

    Written By JERRY, Asheboro, NC on Saturday, December 22, 2007

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    I installed this head unit in my 2000 Tundra, and I'm extremely happy with the results!

    The instructions were "spot-on" and very easy to follow. I only had two small problems, one was with the factory amp. They mounted it underneath the factory head unit with two screws. The location of the screws made it extremely difficult to get to with anything but an angled phillips head screwdriver. The other problem was routing the sub woofer speaker wire and the "command" wire for the sub amp. I did this at the warehouse I manage and I didn't have a coat hanger to feed thru the dash. Other than that...installation was a breeze!

    The unit has tons of different ways to adjust the tone of the speakers and sub. It just takes time "playing" with all the functions until you have the sound you're looking for. Once you get it all figured-out...hang on! This thing rocks with only an amp for a sub woofer. Of course, I also changed the OEM speakers to some better quality ones.

    One final note...the team at Crutchfield had my unit on it's way to me the same day I ordered it!!! Shipping was very fast and the package was very well padded. Everything I needed (except tools) was in the box.

    Bravo Zulu, Crutchfield!

    Very Nice

    Written By Eason, Orange City IA on Thursday, November 15, 2007

    This is a very nice unit I would recommend this to anyone. Installation was very easy in my Explorer thanks to Crutchfield.

    Looks good
    Sounds great with my stock speakers
    Love the Aux input with my MP3 player

    Buttons a little small but I adjusted easily to them
    Light a little bright- but when I'm driving I hardly notice it

    Excellent unit

    Written By Lawrence, Braintree, MA on Wednesday, November 14, 2007

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    Easy to install. Easy to use. Sounds great. My last Pioneer ran great for the last 8 years. I chose this one as a replacement because it can play mp3 CDs.

    Pioneer DEH-P3900MP

    Written By Houdini, Phoenix, AZ on Monday, November 12, 2007

    Unit is three months old. Trace on circuit card where AUX input is soldered is severed. With the trace damaged sound only comes from right speaker. Yeah sure, warranty.....two authorized dealers within 5o miles, and they are 50 miles away. Pioneer should design their products a little better. No more Pioneer for me.

    Read reviews before you buy

    Written By Douglas, Los Angeles on Friday, November 09, 2007

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    I bought this Pioneer in March. The Crutchfield fit and install package are perfect and it only took a few minutes to swap out the stock unit in my Tahoe. HOWEVER... If you read all the reviews you will see two common complaints. There is a glaring blue light at night and the controls are a joke. How this design got past any sort of focus group or product testing is beyond me. Everything is so tiny it's impracticle and if you need to change the volume while driving... there is no chance. It is virtually impossible to lean over and turn the volume up or down without changing the function. That big VERY BRIGHT blue knob you see in the photograph controlls many functions and could have been designed much better. Move on and forget the Pioneer.

    Nice Radio ... Advice for Volume Knob...Read This

    Written By Leonard, Rochester, NH on Saturday, November 03, 2007

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    I am very happy with this radio. It sounds great, has lots of power, looks pretty cool in the dash, was pretty easy to install in my '03 F-150, and is a great value for your money.
    Advise for Volume Knob: ...get a small rubber band about one-half inch diameter, quarter inch wide, and put on the end of the volume knob...problem solved! Now it's easy to control the volume! This will work on any radio with a small volume knob. I am putting another one of these in my '96 Camry.
    The Con: this radio is so cool I'm afraid someone will steal my truck now...I.m looking for a good alarm and a 9mm (ha-ha)

    Excellent product with one bizarre weakness

    Written By Antony, Lansdale, PA on Saturday, November 03, 2007

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    This is an excellent radio/CD player: splendid sound (even with my factory speakers), logical controls, great AM reception (important for talk radio), sensible user manual.

    Everything you could ask for, really, except for one bizarre and unnecessary weakness, the volume/source knob, which protrudes insufficiently from the front of the radio to afford a firm grasp. This might not matter a great deal were it not for the fact that this knob: (1) lacks knurling of any kind, and (2) is highly polished.

    Except for coating it with Vaseline at the factory there's little Pioneer could have done to make this device harder to grasp and turn. I've solved the problem somewhat by wrapping it with a small rubber band that provides better grip than the stumpy, mirror-like original surface. Not very pretty, but in a 1996 Honda Accord who cares?

    My incompetence with things electrical and mechanical is renowned among family and friends--with good reason, I'm sorry to say--but with Crutchfield's excellent instructions I was able to install the thing in three hours (including soldering). No one was more surprised than I.

    That's it, then. An excellent product at a good price, but if you've got adult sized hands be prepared for a fair number of your volume modification attempts to result in the source being switched. Just so you know.

    (Yes, I know the thing comes with a remote control, but who on earth would use a remote control in an automobile? I mean, someone might see ....)

    Sweet Pioneer Reciever for 01 Toyota Corolla

    Written By Ryan00, Westford, MA on Thursday, November 01, 2007

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    Took about 30 mins. to install, including all the wiring. (First time installer). Wow, what a difference from the stock 01 Toyota Corolla Cassette receiver. After removing the additional mounting brackets from the new Pioneer receiver and screwing in the factory mounts the receiver went in with no problems at all. I didn't even use the Crutchfield guide, it was that easy. Not to mention all the wiring is color-coded perfectly so no worries there. Once installed, I tested this thing out. The bass was super strong and the vocals were crisp and clear. Great combo between new speakers (Infinity Reference 6 1/2) and the Pioneer receiver. Btw the audio controls are a lot easier to use than most people make it out to be. The styling and the control lay out is much better than my brothers $240 Clarion. Overall best quality for the price anywhere.

    It Works

    Written By Timothy, New Jersey on Saturday, October 27, 2007

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    It arrived on time, undamaged, and works as per its manufactures specifications. I bought the pioneer because I thought it would last, it was affordable, and thought i would try something different. I am dissappionted with the sound quality. The highs, the treble is messy, cymbals do not sound realistic and midrange is all over the place. The bass seems to be accurate, and it sould be. there is like 50 ways to adjust it. I am not one for preset equalizer settings, but they get you close, you will have to adjust per song or cd. what attracted me to the pioneer was the knob for volume control. I didn't realize there was no mute button, will never buy another unit without one.(my fault) The knob is very sensitive and in my truck it becomes distracting trying to adjust te volume without changing the source. THe knob controls both, in and out for source and right to left for volume. anyway i could go on but the fact is, the unit works as described. I have Boston Acoustics Pro 6.5x series speakers and they drive them efficiently.

    Good bang for buck

    Written By Joel, Gray, TN on Saturday, October 27, 2007

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    This unit has all the features I can think of. It makes the stock speakers sound really good. I bought the Ipod adapter, had some trouble figuring out how to turn on the Aux input. But after checking out the manual, it works great. I don't like how bright the volume knob is at night.

    Not Bad, Not Great

    Written By Juanito, Boulder, CO on Sunday, October 21, 2007

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    Cons: hard to see display during the day, easy to accidentally change the function while trying to turn up the volume, the blue light around the volume knob is too bright at night. Also would be nice if remove mounted on the steering wheel instead of being loose.

    Pros: looks pretty good, powerful with good sound

    Why pay for an expensive ipod adapter when you have a front aux jack

    Written By Gregg, State College, PA on Sunday, October 21, 2007

    Unbeatable price!

    This deck keeps it simple, and offers everything you need. I recommend hooking up a PSP to the front jack and use that for your visual effects than purchasing a more expensive head deck. This is my 2nd vehicle, and 2nd Pioneer head deck. I just wish Pioneer had a unit with screen savers like my old unit but also has the aux jack on the front. Installation was easy in my Trailblazer, with the GMOS adapter. Just make sure you adjust the potentiometer on the GMOS adapter so that you do not have to crank the volume to hear anything.

    Good, but annoying

    Written By tmannino, Erie, PA on Saturday, October 20, 2007

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    Purchased this unit about 6 weeks ago and installed it myself with Crutchfield's help. Very easy to do. I like the power and the features of the unit but the volume/function knob drives me nuts. The volume adjustment is way too fine. I've found I need to turn the knob repeatedly (3-4 times) to turn the volume up from say from 10 to 40. Not only that, as reported elsewhere on this site, the little buttons around the knob stick out too far and wind up getting pushed inadvertantly. If I would have tried it in a store first, I wouldn't have bought it.

    Pioneer DEH-P3900MP

    Written By Cullen, Maumelle, AR on Saturday, October 13, 2007

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    I got this headunit in and got it installed in less than 45 minutes. Its INCREDIBLE! Alot of options and the remote control helps a bunch!

    I would recommend this to anyone looking for a new headunit. It puts out so much more power then my old stock stereo in my 2001 Ford Mustang.

    Best Unit for the price range and beyond

    Written By Robert, Everett, WA on Tuesday, October 09, 2007

    I have this installed in my car and I love it. The controls are easy to use, some people complain about the volume nob not being big enough, or that it's pushed too easily. It is a bit too easy to press, but I hardly ever have a problem with it. And unless you have really massive fingers, don't let that stop you from buying this unit. I love the sound controls on it so I can finely tune my system. The blue light is cool and goes along with the rest of my interior lighting. The Auxiliary input is one of the best features, I can easily plug and play my Zune with it as well as any other music player with a 3.5mm Jack conveniently located in the front of the deck. And from my Zune the sound is crystal clear. Another fantastic feature is the 3 Preamp Outputs, one of them being the sub woofer output which is easy to control from the settings. I am using all three outputs with 6 speakers and 2 sub woofers. I definitely have one of the best stereo systems at my school. It was amazingly easy to uninstall from my old car and install when I got a new car. For it's price range this stereo's quality and features are unbeatable.

    Best Unit for the price range and beyond

    Written By Robert, Everett, WA on Monday, October 08, 2007

    I have this installed in my car and I love it. The controls are easy to use, some people complain about the volume nob not being big enough, or that it's pushed too easily. It is a bit too easy to press, but I hardly ever have a problem with it. And unless you have really massive fingers, don't let that stop you from buying this unit. I love the sound controls on it so I can finely tune my system. The blue light is cool and goes along with the rest of my interior lighting. The Auxiliary input is one of the best features, I can easily plug and play my Zune with it as well as any other music player with a 3.5mm Jack conveniently located in the front of the deck. And from my Zune the sound is crystal clear. Another fantastic feature is the 3 Preamp Outputs, one of them being the sub woofer output which is easy to control from the settings. I am using all three outputs with 6 speakers and 2 sub woofers. I definitely have one of the best stereo systems at my school. It was amazingly easy to uninstall from my old car and install when I got a new car. For it's price range this stereo's quality and features are unbeatable.

    Great Receiver...Great Price...

    Written By greg, San Antonio, TX on Tuesday, October 02, 2007

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    I replaced my factory stereo so I could have MP3 CD capability. Installation with the wiring harness took every bit of 30 minutes. Initially the stereo seemed to be functioning properly, but I had no sound. Checked Crutchfield's FAQs, and right off the bat, the problem was identified. My car has a factory installed amp. So one more quick connection, and everything's working great. I love the features this stereo provides. You can really tweak your music to your taste, and now with mp3 cds, I don't have to fumble around to change cds. The display is sharp, and so far extremely visible in all light conditions. I gave up my steering wheel controls, but the remote control makes up for that. I'd definately recommend this unit.

    Excellent Product + Excellent service = Easy Installation

    Written By Will, Bloomington, MN on Tuesday, September 25, 2007

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    Crutchfield shipped it to me quickly with all the parts and pieces necessary for me to put it in my '98 S10. I had a little problem and called the service and they quickly told me what to do to fix the problem (found out it was a fuse). It works superbly with my new Pioneer speakers. Nice display but I get complaints that the buttons are too small but I like it that way. It saved me $60 to get it from Crutchfield because of the the parts. Pioneer makes a great audio product.

    Geat buy

    Written By Mike, Bentonville AR on Sunday, September 23, 2007

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    great product, and great sound. I would reccoment this to anyone wanting to upgrade.

    Pros and Cons

    Written By Lowell, Valley Head, Al on Friday, September 21, 2007

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    Sound quality great, amplification great, long MP3 display very nice, simply adored the ability to adjust bass and treble cutoff points to the front and back speakers so I didn't kill my small front speakers with bass which they were not designed to carry. Numerous fine music adjustments made adding a subwoofer easier, I was able to boost the sub output enough to satisfy the bazooka bass tube which usually required speaker level inputs to adquately work at low volumes.


    I highly dislike the face plate volume control knob on this player (I don't use remotes, toss them when I get them). The knob does not protrude enough to firmly grasp while driving and it is easily pushed instead of turned, thus changing sources. Of all things, the volume control should be easily adjustable while driving. I actually miss the old radio dual knob controls that were usable to use basically by braile (without looking at the radio)...

    Overall, this is a great radio for the price and functionality.. now fix that durn knob Pioneer...

    Pretty nice.

    Written By Billy, Bartlett, TN on Friday, September 21, 2007

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    I got this matched up with a dash adaptor kit for my 02 Ford Escort ZX2. Installation was a bit difficult but mostly because of the dash kit and large connectors preventing receiver from going flush with dash. It works great and makes my factory speakers sound better. It has more controllability over sound which is nice because I like to fiddle :) . Good features and everything. Other's comments on small buttons and volume knob problems have been minimal to me, but it is right next to me in a compact car. Planning on getting new speakers to complement this addition even better. Only negative I can think of at the moment is that it does not dim when you turn your lights on. It does not have this capability. It is not too bright though so I am going to keep it.

    Very Nice & Good Price

    Written By Matt, Proctorville, OH on Sunday, September 16, 2007

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    I found this Pioneer Rec. to be an excellent match for my 1999 Ford F150. The installation was smooth, but, I did not install via the DIN method as suggested in the instructions. I used the ISO Mount method as it was easier to adjust the "depth" of the receiver for good look / fit in the dash. One small nitpick, the in-dash receiver kit had to be "cleaned up" a bit. One of the notches was too shallow (needed trimmed out) and I had to trim the plastic up here and there. A hobby knife would work well. I used a sharp pen knife.

    I chose to solder the wires to make the harness for better contact and covered the exposed wires / solder with Heat Shrink Tubing not Tape. A minor detail I know.

    The adjustments to sound FIE, Bass, Equalizer... were adequate for me to get a sound that I was happy with for soft rock & female vocals although I'm no audiophile.

    Crutchfield included all the "extras" required for a good hook-up just as advertised. And the instructions were easy to follow.

    Great Bang for the Buck

    Written By Tom, Orlando, FL on Thursday, September 13, 2007

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    This is an excellent reciever. Installation is simple with Crutchfield. This headunit is jampacked with features that the much more expensive Alpines don't have.
    The key remote is fantastic and convenient. Others are saying that they hit Source button when adjusting the volume, I've never had this problem and just use remote anyways.
    The equalizer is great and easy to use. Sound quality is excellent as well.
    My only negatives with this is that it's only an 8-Character disply for CD titles, even though the title scrolls. It's defineately a great bang-for-your-buck, and I have been recommending Pioneer HU's ever since I purchased this.

    One Happy Customer

    Written By Lily, New Jersey on Thursday, September 13, 2007

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    I was looking for a nice, decently priced radio for my car, and I'm glad I came here. This radio was a great buy. Free shipping, and it arrived in two days. Installation was fairly simple, and it sounds and looks great. It's also pretty easy to use, for those who don't want to trouble themselves with reading directions. This is definitely the place to shop for car accessories. I won't hesitate to shop here again.

    Cannot be happier

    Written By Joey, Lynchburg, V.A. on Wednesday, September 12, 2007

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    WOW! Very impressive product for such a small price. I absolutly love this stereo. I installed it in my 1998 Chevy S10 Standard Cab and it fit PERFECTLY with the supplied mounting bracket even though the site said I would need to make modifications. Happy to say all I had to do was slide it in and mount the stereo in the exact same mount place where my factory stereo was. I really like the detailed control it gives me over my music. I love the MP3 function and the aux out on the front for my ipod as well. The only dislike I have is the volume control wheel is pretty skinny and my big fingers tend to push the button that changes the input. Aside from that minor detail, this is way more than what I thought I paid for. Highly recommend!

    Excellent Value! Excellent Sound!

    Written By Warren, U.S.A. on Wednesday, September 12, 2007

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    The DEH-P3900MP was replacing the OEM cd player in my wife's 2001 Toyota Corolla LE. It went in quickly, fits perfectly, and looks great in the dash. It is important to spend a few minutes adjusting the EQ section of this player to get the most out of it. The adjustments have a HUGE effect on the sound. None of the presets worked perfectly for me, so I tweaked the "VOCAL" preset a little and found the sound I was looking for. My wife listens to a lot of "books on tape" and it now sounds like the voices are coming from different locations from inside the car and not just the left and right or front and back. It sounds amazing playing music cds too. I cannot believe the clarity of the highs and the thump from the lows and low mids, even with OEM speakers. The radio reception is fine as it tunes all of the stations that I am used to receiving both on AM and FM. Great value for the amount of tonal flexibility it provides.

    very pleased!

    Written By tim, waynesville, oh on Monday, September 10, 2007

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    i was blown away at how easily the stereo went in and amazed at all the options it has. i can now make music cd's with over 150 songs and just let it play in the truck! man talk about a space saver! also the remote makes it easy to keep my hands on the wheel and eyes on the road while channel surfing or changing tracks. IMPRESSIVE!

    Unbelievable buy!!!

    Written By eric, Plano, TX on Wednesday, September 05, 2007

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    I was greatly impressed by how high this unit's rating was, especially considering all the reviews it's received. I was influenced by that, along with my previous experiences with Pioneer, to purchase this model. I am greatly impressed. This unit is able to be very finitely dialed in for those that have to have it just right, and yet can be simple enough for those that just want a better sound or a CD player with an auxiliary jack in the front. I've read the complaints about the buttons, and I don't share in them. I wish Pioneer would have included a case for the face. That's about the only problem I have.

    Installation was a breeze. My particular wiring harness had one more wire then the diagram showed, but the folks at customer service were quickly and easily able to explain what it was.

    Overall, I would buy from Crutchfield every time. I would buy this unit anytime. I'm extremely happy with my purchase, and highly recommend it to others!

    Not bad

    Written By Donald, Indiana on Tuesday, August 28, 2007

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    Sound is very nice. Tuning buttons too close to volume knob, so you have to be careful. Installed nicely. FM tuner only goes down to 87.9FM. I listen to a local channel 6 TV station often, so since this tuner doesn't go down to 87.7FM I can't do that anymore. Overall a nice unit with just a couple of quirks.

    Excellent reciever

    Written By RonnusTwo, Babylon, NY on Tuesday, August 28, 2007

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    I read through hundreds of reviews before making my choice as to which reciever I would purchase.
    This Pioneer deck has so many good reviews and is such a good price I could not pass it up.
    The biggest complaint I have seen everybody write about was the small buttons and volume control knob/source button issue - this was not an issue for me as I've been using the reciever for just over a week now. The power is outstanding as it pumps thru the Polk Audio 6 3/4 speakers I purchased along with it.
    I like the preset EQ's and the overall simple look of the unit, and must say I HIGHLY recommend it and am very happy with it.

    Sounds and looks great

    Written By Austin, Bangor, ME on Saturday, August 25, 2007

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    I installed this in my 07 Subaru Impreza WRX following the instructions provided. It was surprisingly easy to do, and now I'm enjoying the convenience of MP3 CDs and the front aux in port. The sound is definitely an improvement over the factory unit - and I'll soon be installing some speakers I purchased here as well.

    I noticed another reviewer said it didn't fit properly in his 06 Impreza. Maybe they tried to fit it with the trim that comes with the player still attached. As i installed it (without the head unit trim) it looks slightly recessed into the dash trim. Although different from the flush, squared off appearance of the factory unit I think it still looks great.

    Crutchfield was priced very competitively and the shipping was fast. Put me down as a satisfied customer.

    Radio without a powerful radio reception

    Written By kenya_1977, Knoxville, TN on Tuesday, August 21, 2007

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    Three stars on installation:

    I was installing this into my 2006 Subaru Impreza, which it was listed to fit. I felt like I had to force everything. The screws that it came with to mount the brackets on didn't fit until I reamed the holes out a bit. Once I stuck it into my dash, my dash panel wouldn't fit back on because the radio was just slightly too big. I ended up having to modify my dash panel in order to make it fit.

    Three stars on radio reception:

    I go to turn on the radio and it's barely bringing in my favorite station. I checked the specs and didn't realize that Pioneer is one of the worst radios out there for radio reception. My factory radio was better.

    Five stars for sound:

    I have to admit that this system definitely brought life into my car. I purchased new speakers thinking that my dull music life was due to my factory speakers. This is not so. I installed the stereo before installing the new speakers and I hear a huge difference. This radio definitely rocks as far as sound quality.

    great but not without flaws

    Written By rawklobstar, nashville, tn on Friday, August 17, 2007

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    As other reviewers have said, this is a great head unit with wonderful sound quality, but it is not without its quirks.

    First, the equalizer is a triumphant disaster of electronics design. It is very sophisticated and powerful tool, but it took two sheets of graph paper, a TI-89 calculator, and a degree in electrical engineering to fine tune it so it sounds good. The presets are just about worthless, at least on my blaupunkt speakers. The equalizer gives a series of frequency ranges and allows you to adjust the gain factor of the center frequency with two preset positive multipliers (yes, there are no negative values, so you cant tune out frequencies and no, it does not tell you how much gain each setting adds) as well as two settings for the slope rate of the left side of the gain vs. frequency graph between the selected center frequency and the next one, wide and narrow. Sound ridiculously complicated? It is. Getting it set right took me hours. If you want simplicity, get something else. The built in highpass filtering for the subwoofer preout is a very nice and intuitive feature, however.

    Second, the "loud" function adds a very noticeable amount of distortion to the audio signal. Even with no source on a low volume setting, triggering loud mode adds static to the sound. It also seems to add its own gain to certain frequencies that makes the sound very unnatural. The solution is to not use loud mode, as it is pretty much useless anyways. Whatever preamplifacation method pioneer uses for the loud function is very poor.

    Third, there is no pause button on the headunit, only on the remote.

    Top Notch Radio

    Written By Tom Tom, Pennsauken, NJ on Friday, August 17, 2007

    I brought this radio, and had it installed by professionals, and it did'nt cost me a whole lot of money to do so. I love it, it sounds great with the new speakers I had installed, it really packs a punch. The only small problem I had was setting the clock, the manual is a little vauge on the clock setting, so I called tech support, and it took only two minutes for them to help me set it. Top Notch!

    Great radio

    Written By mikejuno, austin tx on Monday, August 06, 2007

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    I bought 4 new speakers for my car and realized the factory radio could not do them justice. this unit makes them sound great, the buttons are a bit small but the sound makes up for that. i have my sirius pluged into the front aux, and it sounds like im playing a cd, crisp and clear. Crutchfield sales and tech suport made install a breeze. i can not say enough about how great they are. i had to have made 8 calls to tech support and everytime they were very helpfull and polite, im a crutchfield customer for life now. thanks

    Loving It!!`

    Written By Rob 06, Clinton, MD on Wednesday, August 01, 2007

    This was a great buy! It powers my speakers exceptionally well, while the sleek radio adds a great asset to my car. I love it! The only little issue I am having is the sensitivity of the buttons. When I turn the volume up and i graze a button a tiny bit, it will change to that function. But I am not worried about that because it can with a remote anyway! :)

    Pioneer DEH-P3900MP

    Written By Jason, Alpena, MI on Wednesday, August 01, 2007

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    Very easy to install and it looks GREAT! The sound is superb compared to the old factory stereo. It's also very easy to use and I like the fact that it has additional ports in the back for future upgrades(satellite radio, subwoofers, amp., etc.) My wife thinks it looks good and sounds incredible too.

    Nice Deck

    Written By Nickole, Racine, WI on Friday, July 20, 2007

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    I just had my 2 friends install this receiver 2 nights ago.. It took them about 45 minutes to install. The directions were pretty easy you should have some idea what you're doing though.(It would have taken me at least an hour to do) After it was installed it took me some time to figure out how to set the clock and figure out the features but really they are simple and it just takes getting used to. I still have stock speakers in my car but they still sound pretty good. all in all this deck is very nice!

    Pioneer DEH-P3900MP

    Written By Bill, Whitefield, NH on Monday, July 16, 2007

    The 3900 is a great radio for someone who only wants to be able to connect to a plug and play sattelite reciever or mp3. The sound is even much better than the factory radio. I do agree that it is diificult to adjust the volume and not change functions on the dial. Somebody goofed designing that set-up!

    Nice Product

    Written By Frank, Raleigh, NC on Sunday, July 15, 2007

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    Nice sound and pretty easy installation.
    Wiring directions have a miscue that is easily correctable by using intuitive common sense.
    Had to call tech support to solve lack of am band reception. They immediately solved my problem (connect the blue/white wires of each harness). Took less than 5 minutes....great tech support.

    Only problem is not really solvable. Honda Pilot dash is angled up so receiver face is angled up, therefore you lose some display brightness because you're not viewing straight on. Very dim on sunny day, and disappears if you put on sunglasses!

    I like the product and plan to enjoy it.

    what could change the world...

    Written By Ryan, Chicago, IL on Saturday, July 14, 2007

    well i have these pretty basic sony speakers. I thought they were going to be replaced really soon because my system was sounding dead but after i got this reciever today, it brought new life to them and works really REALLY well. i can't believe the sound it cranks out of them even without an external amplifier.

    Sound and AAC support

    Written By sjc1204, San Jose, CA on Tuesday, July 10, 2007

    I had a Sony receiver that supported the AAC (mpeg-4) format but the sound seemed to be biased toward all bass and all high. The Pioneer offered a smoother and more balanced sound. The only con for me is the user interface on the Pioneer receivers. Modifying EQ/misc is more challenging than on the Sony decks

    Pioneer DEH-P3900MP

    Written By Micki, Charlotte, NC on Sunday, July 08, 2007

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    This is a fabulous product!! I chose this product based on other reviews I read and am completely satisfied. I installed it along with my factory speakers in my Jeep Liberty and the factory speakers have never sounded this good. The installation was not complicated and when I had a question, tech support was very helpful and I'm impressed that they would be there until midnight if I needed them. I also loved the fact that they had all the tools I needed to complete the installation; I wouldn't recommend the wire stripper though. It didn't hold up very well. The stereo controls are small but nothing you can't get used to or do what I do and use the remote; it's very convenient.

    Overall I highly recommend this stereo and highly recommend Crutchfield.

    Great Tech support! Saved money on installation, taxes and shipping.

    Written By placido, Lubbock, TX on Saturday, July 07, 2007

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    Saved money on installation fees, extra parts, shipping fees And taxes!! The extra equipment (harness and brackets) was provided free of charge. Crutchfield has great customer service. My stereo came with step by step instructions and pictures personalized for MY car. Saving me installation fees. Tech support came in handy when I ran into trouble. I had to call them once and they were very helpful. I called on 4th of July at 7pm and was surprised someone actually answered. I have never installed a stereo before and I couldn’t have done it with out their help. The stereo is great, it has great sound quality and is quite attractive. The only dislike that I have with the stereo is that volume/on/off button is smaller than I prefer. Overall I’m very pleased with my purchase. I give the stereo 4 stars but Crutchfield 5 stars. will buy all my stereos from them in the future. I highly recommend them.

    Solid Deck all around

    Written By haole, Atlanta GA on Thursday, July 05, 2007

    I think Crutchfield recomends this deck to anyone with a small budget! But thats a good thing. Its at a great price with all the necessary features. Its very easy to use (i dont know why some people say its hard to navigate through all the features). I like how it powers my stock speakers with 22 watts RMS (i might have to upgrade my speakers to match the perfomance of this deck).

    cons- is its not super flashy like some other decks (if you want flashy), except for the blue light around the volume knob. Also, this deck might be more than what you actually need (not a bad thing), crutchfield just recomends it cuz you get the free installation packege with the purchase (which is great!). But you might only need the auxilary input and cd player which you could get with all the lower end pioneer decks.

    great deck

    Written By Scott, bastrop, texas on Wednesday, July 04, 2007

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    i just replaced the factory deck in my 2002 chevy silverado crew cab and also installed two 10" kicker CVRs and im extremely happy with my purchase from crutchfield. great deck. i highly recommend it

    Couldn't be Happier

    Written By Peter, Reading, MA on Wednesday, July 04, 2007

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    First of all, I have to give two thumbs up to the Crutchfield Team for excellent instructions and customer support. There's no way I could have figured out how to install this on my own.

    Secondly, wow, this receiver is amazing. A bit crowded and hard to navigate at first but the sound quality is amazing. My favorite part about it is the Ipod navigation. On my previous head unit (Pioneer DEH-P4700MP), control of the Ipod via the CD-iB100ii was an absolute nightmare. It would take a few seconds between the switch of every song, album and playlist. This head unit however makes it possible to navigate around the Ipod's music before selecting what to play essentially cutting down on delays and making it easier to get to what you want.

    Pioneer DEH-P3900MP

    Written By Ken Groen, Northern Indiana on Monday, July 02, 2007

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    This is a recent upgrade from the 3800 to the 3900 and I find very little differences between the two. I am extremely happy with the quality of the unit, as well as the multiple options provided. 3 pre-amp outs, and excellent internal HPF and LPF which work very well. The aux port is sweet, and you can turn it off so it doesn't show up in your 'sources' if you aren't using an external device that often. As usual, the supertuner works splendidly, as was the case since Pioneer has been around. If there was one thing I would complain about: it would be the small, smooth volume wheel, which because it lacks anything to grip on, isn't particularly user friendly. I usually use the remote, so this isn't a big deal for me.
    All in all a tremendous deal for the price!! Performance is great, options are great, and functionality is top-notch. As usual Crutchfield's installation instructions were A-1 PERFECT and made installation a snap. The adapter plate provided was not of the best quality (burrs on plastic, sharp edges) but it was free, and fit perfectly.
    Awesome job again, Crutchfield is MILES above the rest!

    Crutchfield Rocks!!

    Written By KK, Atlanta, GA on Thursday, June 28, 2007

    I recently installed this receiver into my Corolla 2005 Sport. I replaced the Factory In-Dash 6-Changer with this unit. The difference is like day and night, even with Factory speakers! Initially I bought DF-TOY for connecting my iPOD to the factory stereo but was not satisfied with audio quality (way better than FM but not quite there). So I bit the bullet and purchased this receiver... I could never be happier! The AUX port on this receiver rocks! Also, the Crutchfield instruction manual made it so easy to replace it all by myself. I was done in an hour thanks to the manual, free face plate and free wire harness! I am extremely satisfied with the whole experience at Crutchfield!


    Written By Francisco, Chesapeake, VA on Monday, June 25, 2007

    I love this cd player, very easy to install, sales rep helped me find the best radio to go along with my new polk speakers, he was very helpful, i love everything about this radio, i never was a pioneer fan, but now i am, if you want a powerful but inexpensive radio, get this one, you will be impressed. thank you crutchfield.

    I will ALWAYS buy from Crutchfield in the future!

    Written By Dan, Virginia Beach, VA on Saturday, June 23, 2007

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    This is one of the best purchases I have made in a long time.
    First, this head unit is awesome. Looks good, sounds good, has tons of options with all the outputs and inputs, and it has a remote! All the complaints about the volume knob are irrelevant to me as I just use the remote.
    Second, and more importantly, buying this from Crutchfield vice one of the "big box" stores made it ridiculously easier. First, I ordered it at 4:30 pm on thursday afternoon. It was at my door at 5 pm on friday! And shipping was free. And I had installed by 2 pm on saturday. Best of all, it came with a mounting bracket for my 89 Wrangler and the wire harness included, that would otherwise have cost me $40 at least at another store. IF they even had the bracket. With these parts, I drilled one hole to mount it, crimped the wires, trimmed a little plastic from the dash trim panel, and I was done. No hassle, and it looks perfect.
    And the results: with a new sound bar, some old speakers in the dash, and my Ipod plugged in the front, this thing sounds awesome. Even at 65 on the highway with the top off.
    Highly recommended!

    Pioneer DEH-P3900MP

    Written By Ben, Lakeville IN on Friday, June 22, 2007

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    I installed this unit in my 84 Porsche 944, It's a very nice addition to my interior. It gets very good radio reception. I am very impressed with the sound it can make my 23 year old factory speakers put out. The one thing i don't like about this radio is the volume button. The volume button is what switches from TUNER to CD by pressing it. Many times I have reached over to turn the volume up so I can better hear a song I like, and I accidentally press it a little and it switches over to CD. It gets a little annoying, but other than that this is a very nice unit.

    Horrible ergonomic

    Written By coldevening, AL on Thursday, June 21, 2007

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    Pros: Price, features, sound.
    Cons: Horrible clock (small, all the way to the right). Ugly display with an image of short broken lines as a background. Horrible volume control which also works as input switch, so every second time I try to adjust volume I accidentally switch sources. Remote is fine, but it’s a pain to use it every time while driving 70 mph, may be wheel remote helps me later on. After replacing stock radio with this unit I’ve got better sound, but basically lost my clock and now how to buy a rear view mirror with a build-in clock. With Pioneer Sirius unit attached, the display only shows one line of text (singer), doesn’t scroll it very often, and there is no way to see the clock at all if you don’t mind switching it constantly. There is no ATT button on the unit to mute the sound, which is bad. Only the remote has it.
    5 stars to Crutchfield, 5 stars to the unit for features, but 1 star for ergonomic. 3 stars only, sorry.

    Bang For Your Buck

    Written By Carl, Fort Knox, KY on Wednesday, June 20, 2007

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    This has got to be, by far, the best bargain I've found yet. The price was excellent, especially when it came with the installation kit and wiring harness specifically for my car. The no tax and free shipping were also big pluses. Everything matched and I had it installed within an hour and it sounds great, even with the stock speakers. I am definately looking forward to doing business with Crutchfield in the future.

    Pioneer DEH-P3900MP

    Written By Randy, Pottsboro, TX on Tuesday, June 19, 2007

    I recently installed this unit in an 06 Kia Spectra 5. It sounds great even with the factory speakers. Installation was a breeze! Took me all of 30 minutes. The Crutchfield rep I spoke with on the phone recomended this Pioneer, I had narrowed my choices down to three. My buying experience was very good and my sales rep was very informative and friendly (I wish I could remember his name). I have bought from Crutchfield before and have always had great service. The only problem I have now is that it sounds so good with factory speakers that I'm starting to look at speaker upgrades, amps, know the drill!

    Best bang for the buck!

    Written By Ronnie, Hayward, CA on Tuesday, June 19, 2007

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    This head unit looks great and performs great. This head unit was a great upgrade from my stock head unit in my 2003 Nissan Sentra. I can actually turn it up louder and the bass thumps harder with my stock subwoofer. Much cleaner highs and lows. Pioneer really makes good products and Crutchfield is of course the best when it comes to great service!

    Pioneer at its best

    Written By JASON, Forest Hills, NY on Sunday, June 17, 2007

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    got all the goodies that are required for my car...and i love this thing. The EQ is easy to setup and use. the remote control is slim and easy to handle. three preamp outputs plus front aux imput and you have everything you need. this unit pushes 4 interiors 2 amps and 1 15 inch sub. do yourself a favor and get it asap. if you spend more that doesnt mean you get more!

    Oppps Pioneer!

    Written By txplshrk, Corpus Christi, TX on Saturday, June 16, 2007

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    I have been an avid Pioneer Receiver fan for about 16 years now! They always have the best FM reception, and they always pump out an adequate amount of power. They are the best for not skipping cd/dvd. The last 6 or 7 years they have had great equalizer and crossovers in them too. So I had no hesitations buying another pioneer this time. This is the first Pioneer that I was truly disappointed in. The equalizer, power, reception, etc were all great. The actual mechanics and features were great as usual. What bothered me was the layout on the front of the radio. This has to be Pioneer's worst design yet. The buttons are even too small for my 5'0" wife! She complained that they were hard to use. Also the volume knob is way too small. If you upgrade to there more expensive models the volume knob gets bigger, that is until you get to the in dash dvd players, then it gets small again. I wound up using the remote for every day usage, and that is a pain when the radio is truly close enough to reach by hand in my Cavalier! I wonder what happened to research and development at Pioneer. You would think they would have let people try it out and tell them what was wrong with the layout. The other thing is that the blue light behind the volume knob will blind you at night. I have decided to sell this to my buddy who wants a cd player for his hunting vehicle. I had to part ways with Pioneer for the first time in my life and go to Kenwood. Sorry Pioneer, you should really change the layout of the radios!

    Nice, especially for the $$

    Written By John, Lynnwood, WA on Friday, June 15, 2007

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    OK. If you are looking to upgrade your factory unit and aren't looking to spend a lot, your search has ended. I installed one of these in my 2007 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited and WOW! I actually have sound that I can listen too, even with the roof off! Yeah, the buttons may be a bit small, but I haven't had any problems with them. The balance of bass-mids and highs is really nice, the power is more than adequate and the features abound for such a reasonbly priced receiver. Highly recommended!


    Written By James, Pensacola, FL on Saturday, June 09, 2007

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    Replaced factory Chrysler stereo with the Pioneer DEH-P3900MP. What a huge difference in sound quality even with the factory speakers. Provides plenty of lows, mids, and highs with awesome power. Control nobes are a little small but have had no difficulties in using, plus you could always use the wireless remote if you like. Really like the 3 pre outputs on the rear and the inclusion of the aux plug on the face.

    WOW, got my $'s worth!

    Written By George, Southern Il. on Wednesday, June 06, 2007

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    Bought mainly due to excellent radio reception. I was astounded at the sound quality, power & features of this affordable head unit. More than what I expected & nicest I've owned, last one purchased in 2000. Totally fills my mini van with powerful clear notes. Amazed at the bass it produces from my 4, 2 way pioneer 6 x 8's. Been messing around with car audio for 21 yrs. Now I'll have to throw my 10"sub & amp in my "family van". Really glad my factory cd player messed up. Kinda makes me feel younger again wanting to turn up my heavy metal tunes. Good going Pioneer.

    Greate receiver - SMALL KNOB!

    Written By Jerry, Shell Beach, CA on Tuesday, June 05, 2007

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    This CD receiver with MP3/WMA/AAC playback is outstanding. Crutchfield makes installation a snap! If I had to complain about anything it would be the main receiver knob. It's so small that when you try to adjust the volume while driving, you end up changing from CD to Tuner or Off. I have two Chevy Trackers and have a Pioneer in each now. Great choice!

    Pioneer DEH-P3900MP

    Written By tilt, Nashville, Tn on Monday, June 04, 2007

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    Installed in 2000 Camry. After using diagrams to wire up harness and soldering connections, I installed in car. Took about a hour TOTAL time. Sounds wonderful, works with my Zen player on the aux input. Looking to put one in my Tacoma pickup next. Thanks Crutchfield for the great help and instructions, you made it soooo easy.

    Pioneer DEH-P3900MP

    Written By J-Rod, Sumter, SC on Monday, June 04, 2007

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    Just installed it in a 2005 Corolla. The included receiver adapter and wiring harness adapter worked perfectly. Buttons are small, but look around and you'll see that is pretty much standard on most aftermarket radios. Volume knob is a little hard to grab, station presets require a very firm push to make them change, menus for everything are there - just read the manual and start pushing buttons to figure it all out. Personally, I think the RMS wattage figures are a bit inflated - seems more like 12 watts RMS. The custom EQ seems to take a PHd in sound engineering to understand - what happened to good old fashioned frequencies and a plus or minus db sign? Overall lots of bells and whistles - just needs to be simplified (or maybe I should have just bought a lower priced and simpler radio).

    Awesome Step Up

    Written By Ricky, NJ on Saturday, June 02, 2007

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    This stereo is a wonderful step up from the factory stereo in my 1998 Ford Escort. Even with stock speakers, the sound is just great!

    Great Stereo

    Written By Stephen, Pensacola, FL on Monday, May 28, 2007

    I installed this unit in a 1997 Ford Ranger, along with new speakers. It sounds great, and has all the features I need, and then some! The only possible downside is that some of the functions are buried inside a series of menus. But, once set, it works great and sounds great! Super fast shipping from Crutchfield!!

    It rocks....

    Written By Erl, Pittsburgh, PA on Friday, May 25, 2007

    You've heard it all before and it's true, great value, Crutchfield top-notch, etc....

    I've read alot of complaints about button size but I'm not having that problem? They seem pretty standard to me.

    Can't wait to install the new speakers......