NAD C 165BEE
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Item #: 745C165BEE
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The NAD C 165BEE offers many of the performance advantages of far costlier stereo preamplifiers detail resolution, bass control, and extension for a price that won't break the bank. Its premium-grade circuitry and sturdy construction deliver realistic, lifelike sound that puts the musicians right in your room. This preamp also includes a versatile phono stage so you can enjoy your music collection on vinyl, and a top-notch headphone amplifier for high-quality private listening. Match it up with NAD's potent C 275BEE power amp and a high-performance NAD CD player to create a beautiful-sounding stereo system.
Advanced design and top-notch construction for better sound
Thoughtful engineering and high-quality construction are hallmarks of NAD audio components. The C 165BEE's sophisticated circuit design uses the shortest, cleanest signal paths possible for noise-free operation. This also helps preserve the lowest-levels of musical detail for sound that remains remarkably pure and transparent. A heavy-gauge steel chassis adds to the C 165BEE's durability and vibration resistance. NAD even employed an interference-canceling toroidal transformer in the preamp's power supply for punchy, dynamic performance.
Connections and convenience
This preamp offers enough inputs to connect seven audio components, including your turntable. Two preamp outputs let you use the C 165BEE to drive two independent power amplifiers. A mono subwoofer output makes it easy add a powered sub. And the included remote gives you easy control of the preamp, and the other NAD audio components in your system.
Replaces a 30 year old Harmon- K. pre-amp. I am using a Yamaha M85 250 watt per channel amp - JBL L112 speakers and a 600w JBL powered sub. I didn't want an audio/video unit - so this is perfect for my needs. I am using a Dennon CD player, a Panasonic blu-ray player and a Dual direct drive turntable.
Pros: 2 channel stereo preamp which i did not think were made anymore. NAD kept it simple
Cons: Volume control knob - setting is hard to see - but i'm an old guy so no big deal.
My old NAD 1300 pre-amp finally gave up the ghost, and I set out to find a good replacement. I was incredibly impressed with the old NAD 1300 - I've had it since the '80's and it was somewhat unique in that it had the ability to apply tone controls at a number of different points on the musical spectrum. It was like having a mini equalizer built into the pre-amp.
I looked at a bunch of options in today's marketplace, but I found that most of the desirable units were really set up for today's technology. Since I have a vintage system, I didn't need all those optical and balanced inputs. All I needed was a bunch of old-style jacks and the ability to run all the old equipment. The 165BEE seemed like a good drop-in replacement for the almost identically appearing NAD 1300.
I went ahead and bought it and while it's a good unit, I do miss the 1300's ability to control the tone settings the way I was used to. I have older recordings that are "less than perfect" but could be fixed up by boosting certain weak areas. With the 165BEE, I'm pretty much stuck with the high treble and bass controls- which leaves the critical midranges totally flat. This is fine with a really good recording, but it's incredibly disappointing with the old CDs and tapes that I still like to listen to.
Pros: High quality construction, plenty of RCA jacks, looks very similar to my old NAD 1300, good value for the money.
Cons: Not enough tone control for my liking and not enough switched outlets on the back.
So far I'm undecided as to whether or not this NAD preamp has been a wise purchase. The first unit went bellyup after two weeks. Last Wednesday I turned it on and got hum and then the electronic toast smell. In short order it failed to turn on at all.
The Crutchfield support has been absolutely wonderful. I called them around ten in the morning on Thursday and had a replacement unit at my door the next day. I'm sure my proximity to the Virginia warehouse helped on the expedient delivery.
But, here's the kicker. The new replacement unit has a volume knob that is so tight the remote control motor doesn't have enough torque to move it. It doesn't appear to have been damaged in shipping, so I assume poor quality control?
Anyhow, I haven't contacted support yet about the problem with the replacement unit. I'd like to get the first unit shipped back on Monday so it can be tracked.
I'll make my call to support on Monday or Tuesday for another replacement. I hope the old saying that the 3rd times a charm because I really do like the way this unit performs.
My other components are a NAD CD player, an equalizer and a Carver A500X amplifier all working my reference Infinity tower speakers. The sound is absolutely fabulous.
Pros: Excellent sound reproduction.
Cons: Might be lacking in the quality control department. Undecided at this time.
Works great with my Soundcrafsmen A2502 amp and Teac X1000R reel to reel and Thorens 126MKII turntable With Ortofon MC20 moving coil cartridge. Also using Polk T75 Monitor Speakers& Cambridge Audio Speakers
Pros: Great sound.
Cons: None that I can think of.
Appears to do an excellent job, however will need to run more tests before confidence level reaches five stars. Running through a five star power amp indicates it can be up to excellent levels. Runs quite hot so reliability is still in question.
Pros: appears clean and distortion free...phono treatment is very good...
Cons: runs hot...tone and volume control settings should have graphic indicators...
I am satisfied with this preamp. I have it driving two Emotiva XPA-100s and a pair of high end home built towers and no sub. I listen to mostly 70-80s rock. The sound is very dynamic with the bass and treble in the neutral positions. It is well built and hefty. This is my first NAD product and it delivers. My music sounds very clear when turned up high, no headaches here. For the first time, I am totally satisfied with my sound system. This is a very nice preamp. My only complaint is that the remote dont adjust the volume smoothly. It moves the knob a little choppy and slow, no real problem though.
Pros: Nice build, dynamic sound, looks good. Mates well with my Emo XPA-100s.
Cons: The remote issue (no big thing).
Cleaned up my system without having to spend a lot of money. Noticed a deeper, cleaner bass, mid-range, and brighter treble. Noticed things on my CD's that I hadn't heard before. Subtle, but noticeable. This replaces a carver C-1. Unit pairs nicely with my Sony ES disc player and Mac7270.
Pros: Like everything about it.
nice preamp - easy to use , does everything I wanted it to . Like it alot with the NAD amp
I had grown tired of surround sound and tedious multichannel avr's and all of the associated equipment. I missed the simplicity and purity of a quality 2 channel audio setup, so i set out to get back to the audio roots that got me into this hobby in the first place. I finally got there in 2013, and i havent looked back since. After spending several months with this NAD preamp, I feel that I can recommend with confidence and assurance. I was in the market for a feature rich stereo preamp, and had considered the creek (integrated), emotiva (xsp-1) and peachtree (nova pre) models, among a few others. After some research, I happened to demo a pair of dynaudio stand mount monitors which had been paired with some NAD gear, and I came away very impressed. Mated to my 165 bee I'm running a pair of magnepan 1.7's and an emotiva Xpa-2. I play mostly digital music files from my Mac to my Cambridge audio dac, but have also recently rediscovered vinyl.
The build quality of the NAD is superb. It's Class a gain modules, heavy steel chassis, 2 sets of outputs (1 variable!), Tone controls w/defeat, adjustable mm/mc Phono section with Variable settings to accomodate various cartridge types, sub out, Etc, this is an amazing package that offers an incredible amount of flexibility and value. Most of all, the sound quality is superb. Blows away my vintage mcintosh int. amp and my denon avr which costs considerably more. Pitch black backgrounds, ultra low distortion. Nuance, detail, tone!
Pros: Sound quality, especially via the cd, tape, and most of all phono inputs. Tone controls. Build quality. Heavy, resistive volume knob. Variable output feature. Minimalist sryling. Sub out. Just a great value and with tons of features.
Cons: Would have liked balanced ins/outs. Selected input lights hard to see from some angles in the listening room. Would prefer a more minimalist remote, but that's just nit picking.
I bought this unit to replace my Adcom 565 from the early 90s. I love the 565, but wanted something with remote control. This unit looked to be a perfect replacement and even looked like my old Adcom! When I saw an open box available, I jumped on it.
Once I received it and cracked the wrapper, I was immediately impressed. The look and feel, heft, and overall build quality are great, and it looked great in my rack. This could be the one! But then I turned it on, popped in my listening test disc, and was immediately disappointed. I don't know if the unit was faulty (it was an open box after all), but the sound was lean and wiry, with weak bass. There was no body to strings, no palpability to the instruments. I was always aware that I was listening to electronics and not music. Anyway, I have since returned it and settled on a Parasound instead, which to my ears is far superior (and cheaper to boot), not to mention that it has HT pass-through and bass management capability. I also test drove an Emotiva, which was also far superior to the NAD (and even cheaper), although not quite as good as the Parasound.
Sorry, NAD. I wanted to love you, but you just didn't measure up in listening tests. I'm almost hoping it was defective, because NAD is a good company. But even if I got a bad one, at the price, I think there's better value out there in preamps from Parasound and Emotiva. Even the Emotiva with balanced outputs is less $.
Pros: Build quality, look and feel
Cons: Lean, wiry sound, weak bass, no crossover or home theater bypass, high cost
I purchased the NAD C 165BEE from the open box sale and let me tell you this preamp came like it was never open. not a single scratch or issues. Now with on with the good stuff, I have been searching for the perfect hi-fi system that a normal person can get and afford. I went the route of buying vintage equipment from Ebay with disappointing results (vintage requires service to get them back to former glory, expensive quest) . When I saw the good price of t he NAD C 165BEE I made the decision and purchased one, I have it connected to a fully restored Pioneer Spec 4 power amplifier and the sound it'd beyond anything I have listened before. The sound coming even when you plug a good pair of headphones is remarkable. Simple pure hi-fi sound, I am not a rich person that can afford equipment that costs thousands of dollars and I have a hard time believing that your ears can hear a music with higher quality than this. Sound separation is just amazing, my cds sound like live concerts, the Ipod sounds like cd quality. I even use it to hear music with my Grado SR 125 headphones and boy the sound is just magnificent. If you are looking for a fantastic preamplifier do not look any further, I am sure that are many high dollar preamplifiers out there but this is the one for me. I finally found my perfect setup Hope this review helps you
Pros: Sound quality, build quality, looks fantastic
Cons: This is perfection and does not need anything else
I purchased the NAD C165BEE stereo pre-amplifier to use in a high fidelity stereo music system. I play mostly classical music CDs and an occasional cassette tape. Sometimes I route the audio from a DVD player through the audio system when I think the sound track warrants the enhanced fidelity and power amplification. The other components in the system include an Acurus A200 power amplifier (200 wrms/ch into 8 ohms), a NAD T 531 CD/DVD player, and Klipsch Forte speakers. So generally speaking, this is not a "high-end" system. The new pre-amp replaced a 40-year old integrated amplifier, in which I was using only the pre-amp section. That older device had begun deteriorating markedly in terms of mechanical operation and sound quality, but served me well for a long time. I have been using the new NAD pre-amp for about two weeks.
So far, I am delighted with the NAD C165BEE pre-amp. It has significantly improved the sound quality of my system. The operation of the pre-amp is impeccable, as is the feel of the controls. The presence of a tone-defeat switch is clear evidence of NAD's attention to fidelity. I definitely recommend this pre-amp.
I have noticed that the pre-amp gets warmer after a few hours of operation than I would have expected -- as warm or warmer than the power amp.
I have given the pre-amp a five-star rating relative to the admittedly narrow range of equipment that I am familiar with and can afford. Accordingly, I can only wonder what a pre-amp costing of order $10^4 or even $10^5 could offer that this one does not. Would including such high-end units in the comparison cost the NAD even 1/2 a star?
Pros: Clean sound, beautiful control feel, convenient rear-panel power outlets (120 V model), tone control defeat switch, well designed front-panel status lights, plenty of source input options, phone jack with volume control that auto-defeats pre-amp out signal
Cons: None that I have observed in two weeks.
This was a replacement for an aged Adcom GTP 450 that went on the blink. This plugged into my configuration easily--feeding my phono (yes, we have a stack of treasured vinyl), CD player and iTunes media player inputs to the still decent Adcom power amp that I did not want to replace, producing a clean, clear, and very detailed sound on my pair of venerable old KEF 104/2 speakers. I couldn't be happier with the unit.
But the icing on the cake is Crutchfield's service. I placed the order on a Tuesday afternoon, received an email that it had shipped two hours later, and had the unit in hand by Thursday early afternoon! Then I got an email saying that it had been delivered (which is very helpful for figuring out what has happened if something accidentally gets delivered to the wrong place, which UPS has done to me on occasion). And this was the FREE shipping! I had no problems installing this unit, so there was no need to call for assistance, but I have ordered from Crutchfield before--a car stereo system--and got into some installation difficulty with it as we were trying to install it on a Sunday. Not only did I get a real human when I called for assistance, I got someone who knew what they were talking about and was able to get me straightened out in no time. Really, even if the price had been higher here than at other places (which, in the case of this unit, it was not), you really can't beat that sort of service!!
This preamp replaced an ageing Adcom GFP 565 preamp which was highly rated by Stereophile Magazine years ago. My system never sounded better. The power amps are Oulaw Audio M2200, 200 watt monoblocks, and the speakers are vintage Infinity RS IV-B 48" high towers, each with double 10 " sealed woofers. The sound is firm ,clean, well focused and detailed and a significant improvement. The controls, and the unit as a whole have a quality feel.I sit close up and do not use the remote, but I wish that the marker dot on the loudness knob was more visible. I value highly the variable output which allows me to match level with the high sensitivity power amps. This is extremely useful.This is a perfect replacement unit..
For dat56, depending on what you have your pre plugged into or the size/efficiency of your speaker and the size of your listening room it can be very easy to overpower the space and you will have similar problems with any pre using the "fixed" pre outs. Suggest you use the set to the right on the pre out, labelled "2". The number 1, the left pair are fixed output. while the pair on the right side are variable and controlled by the knob to the right of the "main in" plug. (Immediately to the right of the pre outs.) It allows a 12 dB reduction and it should solve your problem.
I needed a preamp that would be compatible with my Bose 901 speaker's EQ and this one seemed to fit the bill. So I ordered it and waited.
It soon arrived, and in fine shape. As I unpacked it, I was very pleased with the solidity and heft of the unit. And upon powering up the first time, the feel of the controls was excellent, other than the fact the tone and balance controls are a little hard to grip. Everything worked quite well, with the operation of switches and pots being very smooth and quiet. Everything about this pre exudes quality and value for the money. My only beef with the day to day operation is with the remote volume control. It is too difficult to find just the right volume at low levels. The motorized volume control changes the volume too much at a time. This is rather annoying after being used to the precision of digital volume controls found on most receivers. But that's about it for downside.
As for sound quality, I am totally thrilled with it. Definitely a step ahead of my mid-level A/V receiver, with greater clarity and definition.
So I would definitely recommend this pre as the anchor of a high quality, high value 2-channel system. It is very flexible in terms of controls and connections. Build quality is very high yet practical, which keeps the price reasonable, and it sounds great.
|Signal to Noise Ratio||108|
|Number of Inputs||7|
|HDMI Standby Pass-through||No|
|HDMI Monitor Output||No|
|Satellite Radio Ready||No|
|Network Streaming Services||None|
|Parts Warranty||2 Years|
|Labor Warranty||2 Years|
Tape Monitor: If you own a 3-head tape deck, the tape monitor loop allows you to monitor recording quality as the recording is made.
Phono Input: The phono input has two sets of stereo RCA jacks; one for moving coil and one for moving magnet cartridges (only one or the other is used, not both). There is also a ground terminal.
Dual Preamp Outputs: The second set of preamp outputs is convenient for bi-amping speakers.
Subwoofer: The single RCA subwoofer output is crossed over at 100 Hz.
Remote Control: The SR 8 wireless remote will control the C 165BEE and NAD CD players and Tuners.
Surprisingly favorable reviews, given the price. [ Stephen Dec 31, 2015 ]
A lot of positive from user reviews. [ KHUONG Dec 09, 2015 ]
don't know [ Lonnie Oct 22, 2015 ]
I'm not familiar with the amps referenced, but my pre amp is hooked to a Haffler DH-500 and so far works and sounds great after a few months of burn in. [ Miguel Oct 21, 2015 ]
Yes,great combo for warm and clear analog through Dynaco ST 70 tube amplify,but you must use preamp between them to control the volume up and down. [ KHUONG Oct 21, 2015 ]
It does send the full signal through all of its outputs. There is no dedicated sub output with low frequency only. [ Peter Dec 08, 2015 ]
Thanks [ Wendell Mar 03, 2014 ]
I have no idea if it splits the base but this is just a low-cost, excellent system for a small room and not in the category of a complete amplifier which has more options. I don't use the SW [ RICHARD Feb 26, 2014 ]
We have not received any answers from other customers on your question. I would recommend reaching out to an Advisor by phone (1-800-324-9695) or online chat. They should be able to help answer your question. [ Jeff Feb 17, 2014 ] Staff