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NAD C 165BEE

Stereo preamplifier

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Our take on the NAD C 165BEE

by Dave Bar
NAD

The NAD C 165BEE offers many of the performance advantages of far costlier stereo preamplifiers — detail resolution, bass control, and extension — for a price that won't break the bank. Its premium-grade circuitry and sturdy construction deliver realistic, lifelike sound that puts the musicians right in your room. This preamp also includes a versatile phono stage so you can enjoy your music collection on vinyl, and a top-notch headphone amplifier for high-quality private listening. Match it up with NAD's potent C 275BEE power amp and a high-performance NAD CD player to create a beautiful-sounding stereo system.

Advanced design and top-notch construction for better sound
Thoughtful engineering and high-quality construction are hallmarks of NAD audio components. The C 165BEE's sophisticated circuit design uses the shortest, cleanest signal paths possible for noise-free operation. This also helps preserve the lowest-levels of musical detail for sound that remains remarkably pure and transparent. A heavy-gauge steel chassis adds to the C 165BEE's durability and vibration resistance. NAD even employed an interference-canceling toroidal transformer in the preamp's power supply for punchy, dynamic performance.

Connections and convenience
This preamp offers enough inputs to connect seven audio components, including your turntable. Two preamp outputs let you use the C 165BEE to drive two independent power amplifiers. A mono subwoofer output makes it easy add a powered sub. And the included remote gives you easy control of the preamp, and the other NAD audio components in your system.

Highlights:

  • 6 line-level RCA inputs, including 1 tape monitor loop
  • phono input with selectable moving magnet or moving coil settings
  • 2 line-level RCA preamp outputs, including one variable output
  • 1 line-level RCA subwoofer preamp output (for connecting a powered sub)
  • frequency response: 3-70,000 Hz (-3dB)
  • signal-to-noise ratio: 108 dB
  • phono signal-to-noise ratio: 78 dB
  • phono input sensitivity: 14 mV (moving magnet), 0.8 mV (moving coil)
  • separate resistive and capacitive loading for MM and MC inputs for precise frequency with different phono cartridges
  • toroidal power transformer
  • rotary bass and treble controls with defeat switch for tone control bypass
  • full-size headphone jack with independent, built-in headphone amplifier
  • 12-volt trigger output
  • IR input/output
  • detachable AC power cord
  • 2 AC convenience outlets (one switched, one unswitched)
  • <1W Standby Power Consumption
  • free of lead and other environmentally dangerous substances
  • remote control
  • 17-1/8"W x 3-7/8"H x 14-1/8"D
  • warranty: 2 years
  • Our 60-day money-back guarantee
 

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Features and Specs
General
Frequency Bandwidth
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20-20k
THD
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0.001%
Signal to Noise Ratio
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108
Number of Inputs
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7
HDMI Inputs
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None
HDMI Standby Pass-through
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No
HDMI Monitor Output
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No
USB Connections
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None
Ethernet Connections
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None
Phono Inputs
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2
Preamp Outputs
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3
Satellite Radio Ready
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No
HD Radio
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No
Memory Presets
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None
iPod Controls
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Internet Ready
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No
Networking
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No
Network Streaming Services
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None
AirPlay Compatible
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None
DLNA Certified
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No
Dolby Digital
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No
DTS
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No
Multiple Zones
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No
Dimensions
Width (inches)
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17-1/8
Height (inches)
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3-7/8
Depth (inches)
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14-1/8
Weight (pounds)
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13.23
Parts Warranty
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2 Years
Labor Warranty
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2 Years
Product Research
What's in the box?

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  • Stereo Preamplifier
  • 6' Power cord
  • Wireless remote control (SR 8)
  • 2 "AA" batteries
  • 4' RCA patch cord
  • Owner's manual (English/ French/ Spanish/ Italian/ German/ Dutch/ Swedish/ Russian)
  • Warranty information

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Features
Controls
Connections
Specifications

Features

Tape Monitor: If you own a 3-head tape deck, the tape monitor loop allows you to monitor recording quality as the recording is made.

Phono Input: The phono input has two sets of stereo RCA jacks; one for moving coil and one for moving magnet cartridges (only one or the other is used, not both). There is also a ground terminal.

Dual Preamp Outputs: The second set of preamp outputs is convenient for bi-amping speakers.

Subwoofer: The single RCA subwoofer output is crossed over at 100 Hz.

Remote Control: The SR 8 wireless remote will control the C 165BEE and NAD CD players and Tuners.

Controls

Front Panel:

  • Input: six individual buttons to select input (Phono, CD, Tuner, MP, Aux, and Tape 2)
  • Tape Monitor: engage/disengage the tape monitor loop
  • Tone Defeat: bypass the bass and treble controls
  • Bass: rotary bass adjustment; +/-5dB @ 100Hz
  • Treble: rotary treble adjustment; +/-5dB @ 10kHz
  • Balance: rotary left/right balance
  • Volume: rotary volume control

Rear Panel:

  • Power: master power switch
  • Volume: rotary dial; adjusts volume of Pre Out 2 (relative to Pre Out 1)
  • MM/MC: select moving magnet or moving coil phono input
  • MC Load: choose the resistive load that most closely approximates the value of your specific MC cartridge
  • MM Load: choose the input capacitance optimized for your specific MM cartridge

Connections

Rear Panel:

  • Phono Inputs: stereo RCA inputs for moving magnet and moving coil cartridges
  • Phono Ground: ground terminal for the turntable input
  • Line Inputs: stereo RCA input jacks for CD, Tuner, MP (Media Player), Aux, Tape 2, and Tape Monitor
  • Record Outputs: stereo RCA output jacks for Tape 2 and Tape Monitor
  • Pre Out 1: stereo RCA preamp outputs
  • Pre Out 2: stereo RCA outputs for feeding another amplifier, a rotary dial beside the outputs adjusts the volume relative to the Pre Out 1 jacks
  • Subwoofer: single RCA preamp output
  • IR In: 3.5mm mini-jack input, used to control this unit using an optional infrared repeater or the IR output of another component
  • IR Out: 3.5mm mini-jack output, used to control another NAD component
  • 12 Volt Trigger Out: turn on/off another device along with the C 165BEE; the +12 volt trigger output is a 3.5mm mini-jack; the maximum output is 50 mA
  • AC Input: 2-pole IEC power input for use with included cord (or optional upgraded cord)
  • AC Output:
    • Switched: 120 watts max
    • Unswitched: 360 watts max

Front Panel:

  • Headphone: Standard 1/4" headphone jack

Specifications

  • THD (Total Harmonic Distortion): <0.001% (20 Hz - 20k Hz, 2 volt output)
  • Signal/Noise:
    • >108 dB (ref 500 mV in/500 mV out)
    • >106 dB (ref 2 volt out, maximum volume)
  • Frequency response:
    • +/- 0.1 dB: 20 Hz-20 kHz (tone defeat on)
    • +/- 0.5 dB: 20 Hz-20 kHz (tone defeat off)
  • Preamp output impedance: 75 Ω
  • Line input impedance: 100 kΩ + 320 pF
  • Line input sensitivity: 158 mV (ref 500 mV output)
  • Headphone output impedance: 10 Ω
  • Maximum input signal: >9 volts
  • Maximum output level:
    • Preamp: >10 volts into 600 Ω
    • Tape out: >10 volts into 10 kΩ
    • Sub out: >7 volts into 1 kΩ
    • Headphones: >5 volts into 600 Ω/>2 volts into 32 Ω
  • Channel separation: >80 dB (ref 1 kHz and 10 kHz)
  • Phono input:
    • Impedance:
      • MC: 40,100.6 kΩ + 1 nF
      • MM: 47 kΩ + 220 kF
    • Input sensitivity:
      • MC: 0.15 mV (1 kHz, 500 mV output)
      • MM: 2.63 mV (1 kHz, 500 mV output)
    • Signal/Noise:
      • MC: >78 dB
      • MM: >86 dB
    • Infrasonic filter: -3 dB at 10 Hz, -14 dB at 5 Hz
    • Channel Separation: >60 dB (1 kHz, 10 kHz)
  • Tone control:
    • Bass: +/-5dB @ 100Hz
    • Treble: +/-5dB @ 10kHz
  • Power Requirement: AC 120V 60Hz
  • Power Consumption:
    • Normal Operation: 21W
    • Standby: <0.8W
  • Weight: 13.23 lbs (6 kg)
 
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5 out of 5

Nice upgrade

Written By HowardS, Seattle,WA. on Friday, April 11, 2014
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Cleaned up my system without having to spend a lot of money. Noticed a deeper, cleaner bass, mid-range, and brighter treble. Noticed things on my CD's that I hadn't heard before. Subtle, but noticeable. This replaces a carver C-1. Unit pairs nicely with my Sony ES disc player and Mac7270.
Pros:
Like everything about it.
Cons:
None.
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5 out of 5

nice amp

Written By tridosko, castle rock co on Monday, February 03, 2014
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nice preamp - easy to use , does everything I wanted it to . Like it alot with the NAD amp
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5 out of 5

Excellent preamp with great features

Written By RogerW, San Diego, CA on Monday, October 28, 2013
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I had grown tired of surround sound and tedious multichannel avr's and all of the associated equipment. I missed the simplicity and purity of a quality 2 channel audio setup, so i set out to get back to the audio roots that got me into this hobby in the first place. I finally got there in 2013, and i havent looked back since. After spending several months with this NAD preamp, I feel that I can recommend with confidence and assurance. I was in the market for a feature rich stereo preamp, and had considered the creek (integrated), emotiva (xsp-1) and peachtree (nova pre) models, among a few others. After some research, I happened to demo a pair of dynaudio stand mount monitors which had been paired with some NAD gear, and I came away very impressed. Mated to my 165 bee I'm running a pair of magnepan 1.7's and an emotiva Xpa-2. I play mostly digital music files from my Mac to my Cambridge audio dac, but have also recently rediscovered vinyl.

The build quality of the NAD is superb. It's Class a gain modules, heavy steel chassis, 2 sets of outputs (1 variable!), Tone controls w/defeat, adjustable mm/mc Phono section with Variable settings to accomodate various cartridge types, sub out, Etc, this is an amazing package that offers an incredible amount of flexibility and value. Most of all, the sound quality is superb. Blows away my vintage mcintosh int. amp and my denon avr which costs considerably more. Pitch black backgrounds, ultra low distortion. Nuance, detail, tone!
Pros:
Sound quality, especially via the cd, tape, and most of all phono inputs. Tone controls. Build quality. Heavy, resistive volume knob. Variable output feature. Minimalist sryling. Sub out. Just a great value and with tons of features.
Cons:
Would have liked balanced ins/outs. Selected input lights hard to see from some angles in the listening room. Would prefer a more minimalist remote, but that's just nit picking.
2 out of 2 people found this helpful
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2 out of 5

Disappointing sound

Written By Nick, Santa Cruz on Wednesday, April 03, 2013
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I bought this unit to replace my Adcom 565 from the early 90s. I love the 565, but wanted something with remote control. This unit looked to be a perfect replacement and even looked like my old Adcom! When I saw an open box available, I jumped on it.

Once I received it and cracked the wrapper, I was immediately impressed. The look and feel, heft, and overall build quality are great, and it looked great in my rack. This could be the one! But then I turned it on, popped in my listening test disc, and was immediately disappointed. I don't know if the unit was faulty (it was an open box after all), but the sound was lean and wiry, with weak bass. There was no body to strings, no palpability to the instruments. I was always aware that I was listening to electronics and not music. Anyway, I have since returned it and settled on a Parasound instead, which to my ears is far superior (and cheaper to boot), not to mention that it has HT pass-through and bass management capability. I also test drove an Emotiva, which was also far superior to the NAD (and even cheaper), although not quite as good as the Parasound.

Sorry, NAD. I wanted to love you, but you just didn't measure up in listening tests. I'm almost hoping it was defective, because NAD is a good company. But even if I got a bad one, at the price, I think there's better value out there in preamps from Parasound and Emotiva. Even the Emotiva with balanced outputs is less $.
Pros:
Build quality, look and feel
Cons:
Lean, wiry sound, weak bass, no crossover or home theater bypass, high cost
5 out of 7 people found this helpful
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5 out of 5

NAD C 165BEE remarkable sound quality

Written By Marcos, Tampa, FL on Saturday, February 02, 2013
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I purchased the NAD C 165BEE from the open box sale and let me tell you this preamp came like it was never open. not a single scratch or issues. Now with on with the good stuff, I have been searching for the perfect hi-fi system that a normal person can get and afford. I went the route of buying vintage equipment from Ebay with disappointing results (vintage requires service to get them back to former glory, expensive quest) . When I saw the good price of t he NAD C 165BEE I made the decision and purchased one, I have it connected to a fully restored Pioneer Spec 4 power amplifier and the sound it'd beyond anything I have listened before. The sound coming even when you plug a good pair of headphones is remarkable. Simple pure hi-fi sound, I am not a rich person that can afford equipment that costs thousands of dollars and I have a hard time believing that your ears can hear a music with higher quality than this. Sound separation is just amazing, my cds sound like live concerts, the Ipod sounds like cd quality. I even use it to hear music with my Grado SR 125 headphones and boy the sound is just magnificent. If you are looking for a fantastic preamplifier do not look any further, I am sure that are many high dollar preamplifiers out there but this is the one for me. I finally found my perfect setup Hope this review helps you
Pros:
Sound quality, build quality, looks fantastic
Cons:
This is perfection and does not need anything else
8 out of 8 people found this helpful
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5 out of 5

Replacing a 40-year old integrated amplifier

Written By Fred S, Murfreesboro TN on Thursday, January 17, 2013
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I purchased the NAD C165BEE stereo pre-amplifier to use in a high fidelity stereo music system. I play mostly classical music CDs and an occasional cassette tape. Sometimes I route the audio from a DVD player through the audio system when I think the sound track warrants the enhanced fidelity and power amplification. The other components in the system include an Acurus A200 power amplifier (200 wrms/ch into 8 ohms), a NAD T 531 CD/DVD player, and Klipsch Forte speakers. So generally speaking, this is not a "high-end" system. The new pre-amp replaced a 40-year old integrated amplifier, in which I was using only the pre-amp section. That older device had begun deteriorating markedly in terms of mechanical operation and sound quality, but served me well for a long time. I have been using the new NAD pre-amp for about two weeks.

So far, I am delighted with the NAD C165BEE pre-amp. It has significantly improved the sound quality of my system. The operation of the pre-amp is impeccable, as is the feel of the controls. The presence of a tone-defeat switch is clear evidence of NAD's attention to fidelity. I definitely recommend this pre-amp.

I have noticed that the pre-amp gets warmer after a few hours of operation than I would have expected -- as warm or warmer than the power amp.

I have given the pre-amp a five-star rating relative to the admittedly narrow range of equipment that I am familiar with and can afford. Accordingly, I can only wonder what a pre-amp costing of order $10^4 or even $10^5 could offer that this one does not. Would including such high-end units in the comparison cost the NAD even 1/2 a star?
Pros:
Clean sound, beautiful control feel, convenient rear-panel power outlets (120 V model), tone control defeat switch, well designed front-panel status lights, plenty of source input options, phone jack with volume control that auto-defeats pre-amp out signal
Cons:
None that I have observed in two weeks.
7 out of 7 people found this helpful
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5 out of 5

Exactly what I needed!

Written By Smarks, Near Boston, MA on Thursday, May 03, 2012
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This was a replacement for an aged Adcom GTP 450 that went on the blink. This plugged into my configuration easily--feeding my phono (yes, we have a stack of treasured vinyl), CD player and iTunes media player inputs to the still decent Adcom power amp that I did not want to replace, producing a clean, clear, and very detailed sound on my pair of venerable old KEF 104/2 speakers. I couldn't be happier with the unit.

But the icing on the cake is Crutchfield's service. I placed the order on a Tuesday afternoon, received an email that it had shipped two hours later, and had the unit in hand by Thursday early afternoon! Then I got an email saying that it had been delivered (which is very helpful for figuring out what has happened if something accidentally gets delivered to the wrong place, which UPS has done to me on occasion). And this was the FREE shipping! I had no problems installing this unit, so there was no need to call for assistance, but I have ordered from Crutchfield before--a car stereo system--and got into some installation difficulty with it as we were trying to install it on a Sunday. Not only did I get a real human when I called for assistance, I got someone who knew what they were talking about and was able to get me straightened out in no time. Really, even if the price had been higher here than at other places (which, in the case of this unit, it was not), you really can't beat that sort of service!!
2 out of 4 people found this helpful
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5 out of 5

Perfect Replacement

Written By Judge Tom, Olney, Maryland on Sunday, August 28, 2011
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This preamp replaced an ageing Adcom GFP 565 preamp which was highly rated by Stereophile Magazine years ago. My system never sounded better. The power amps are Oulaw Audio M2200, 200 watt monoblocks, and the speakers are vintage Infinity RS IV-B 48" high towers, each with double 10 " sealed woofers. The sound is firm ,clean, well focused and detailed and a significant improvement. The controls, and the unit as a whole have a quality feel.I sit close up and do not use the remote, but I wish that the marker dot on the loudness knob was more visible. I value highly the variable output which allows me to match level with the high sensitivity power amps. This is extremely useful.This is a perfect replacement unit..
7 out of 8 people found this helpful
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4 out of 5

Variable out

Written By HTM, Peshtigo WI on Saturday, August 27, 2011
 
For dat56, depending on what you have your pre plugged into or the size/efficiency of your speaker and the size of your listening room it can be very easy to overpower the space and you will have similar problems with any pre using the "fixed" pre outs. Suggest you use the set to the right on the pre out, labelled "2". The number 1, the left pair are fixed output. while the pair on the right side are variable and controlled by the knob to the right of the "main in" plug. (Immediately to the right of the pre outs.) It allows a 12 dB reduction and it should solve your problem.

8 out of 14 people found this helpful
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4 out of 5

Almost Perfect!

Written By dat56, Nevada, MO on Sunday, August 07, 2011
 
I needed a preamp that would be compatible with my Bose 901 speaker's EQ and this one seemed to fit the bill. So I ordered it and waited.

It soon arrived, and in fine shape. As I unpacked it, I was very pleased with the solidity and heft of the unit. And upon powering up the first time, the feel of the controls was excellent, other than the fact the tone and balance controls are a little hard to grip. Everything worked quite well, with the operation of switches and pots being very smooth and quiet. Everything about this pre exudes quality and value for the money. My only beef with the day to day operation is with the remote volume control. It is too difficult to find just the right volume at low levels. The motorized volume control changes the volume too much at a time. This is rather annoying after being used to the precision of digital volume controls found on most receivers. But that's about it for downside.

As for sound quality, I am totally thrilled with it. Definitely a step ahead of my mid-level A/V receiver, with greater clarity and definition.

So I would definitely recommend this pre as the anchor of a high quality, high value 2-channel system. It is very flexible in terms of controls and connections. Build quality is very high yet practical, which keeps the price reasonable, and it sounds great.
14 out of 15 people found this helpful
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1 question already asked

I want a pre-amp that puts all the power to the speaker systems. I have seen some that seem to split the deep bass out of the normal output and into a subwoofer output. This unit has a sub jack. Does it split the bass out of the regular output channels? If so, this is not the unit for me. [ Wendell  Feb 13, 2014 ]
3 answers
  • Thanks [ Wendell   Mar 03, 2014 ]
  • I have no idea if it splits the base but this is just a low-cost, excellent system for a small room and not in the category of a complete amplifier which has more options. I don't use the SW [ RICHARD   Feb 26, 2014 ]
  • We have not received any answers from other customers on your question. I would recommend reaching out to an Advisor by phone (1-800-324-9695) or online chat. They should be able to help answer your question. [ Jeff Staff  Feb 17, 2014 ]

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