Rockford Fosgate Prime R14X2
2006 Harley Davidson Street Glide
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Put in my dump truck to replace factory speakers. Great quality and sound.
Pros: Easy install.
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Item # 575R14X2 | MFR # R14X2
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The flush-mount tweeter allows this speaker to fit in more locations and provides a more focused image.
Whether you're building your first system or replacing some burned-out factory speakers, Rockford Fosgate's Prime Series R14X2 4" speakers offer clean, powerful performance that'll keep you and your friends rockin' as you drive. Plus, Prime speakers are a great way to get Rockford Fosgate sound quality without destroying your bank account.
Each 4" speaker sports a stiff polypropylene woofer cone that delivers strong drums and bass, along with clean reproduction of the midrange frequencies. Rockford Fosgate mounts the silk dome tweeter flush with the woofer so it'll fit in more vehicles while adding the excitement of strong high-frequency response. The built-in crossover network divides the frequencies going to each driver, so all your music plays faithfully. Grilles are included.
Put in my dump truck to replace factory speakers. Great quality and sound.
Average Customer Review(s):
Put in my dump truck to replace factory speakers. Great quality and sound.
Pros: Easy install.
Great speakers sound quality is excellent
Great crystal sound, love the bass on these. Great replacements for my Kia Soul 2011 factory speakers, awesome upgrade!
Very easy to install. Highly recommended sound awesome.
fast shipping good sound for the price
Just what I needed to complete my radio install in my Atomic Golf Car. The sound is just what I was looking for, and even has some good bass for a little speaker. Thank for a great product, and wonderful service. Russ G. In the Villages Florida
Speakers fit good into stock locations. They were. Good stock upgrade. Still only a 4" speaker so limited on base and loudness but again a good stock upgrade.
Pros: Good fitment in stock speaker location.
Cons: Non really.
Good for price point
for doors and small places Awesome thank u PS Very Knowledgeable sales department
This is a nice set of shallow-mount speakers. They have surprisingly good range and response. One complaint I have is that the connections terminal feels a little flimsy when attaching your spade connectors. I used these in a Porsche 924s. Very slight modification was necessary but no big deal. I am also using the stock speaker grille. I think these 4" speakers outperform the stock 6x4 speakers. If you are looking for a 'stock plus' speaker solution where you aren't breaking the bank, this is a great way to go.
Pros: Shallow mounting depth
Cons: Flimsy electrical terminal plate
Very good. More bass than I expected... I had to completely readjust the tone controls but they sound remarkably good loud. They were a good fit in this car. I had to make a gasket for the frame where they fasten to the dash (like the oem speakers had) and break two of the mounting tabs off but they dropped right in and sound great.
Good product for price
Very crisp and clear speakers. They go great with the mid range speakers I have. Makes for a well rounded sound.
Pros: Clear sound
Awesome sounding speakers. As the entry line for RF, I wasn't expecting much, but was pleasantly surprised with the clarity! I bought a matching set of 6x9's after hearing these.
Pros: Great sound, great name, awesome price.
Cons: May not hold up to extremely high wattage power amps.
Excellent sound and quality.
Pros: Clear even at full volume
Cons: None yet
Great replacement for stock Jeep wrangler speakers. Nice retrofit thanks to Crutchfield
Replaced factory speakers in my 2002 Firebird with these. Made a huge improvement in sound quality.
Pros: Great price, ease of installation and great support from crutchfield!
Pros: Sound is great. Range impressive for small speaker
Cons: Not an exact replacement fit (easy enough though) Metal screws not included
Marginal improvement over stock Toyota speakers. Was expecting a tad more mid base increase. Treble is on the "night" side. OK for the price.
Pros: Drop in fit
Cons: Not quite the noticeable improvement I was hoping for.
These speakers worked pretty well for my '96 Land Rover Discovery. They were shallow enough to fit and required only a few new drill holes to mount securely behind the fascia trim. They have a richer sound than the stock speakers although the family thought they were a bit 'tinny' when with the EQ maxed on treble. Overall very happy and would buy them again.
Pros: Look, sound, price
Cons: Fit wasn't perfect but workable.
This speaker was a good alternative to a traditional 4x6 speaker for my application. Speaker was awesome as always.
Pros: Speed of delivery, sound quality, price
Cons: Had to purchase additional screws to mount to my application (2002 Silverado)
I like these speakers very much. The sound is outstanding.
I bought this as a cheap upgrade to a factory system. Replaced my worn out speakers in my 1994 Suzuki. Decent little set of speakers. Sound good for 4". Highly recommended if you're looking for a cheap upgrade from your older speakers.
Pros: Sounds good, price is great.
Cons: None that I can think of.
Nice upgrade to my stock BMW door speakers ... easy to install and clearer sound.
Pros: Clear sound, easy to install
Installed in a 1993 Hummer. For a four inch speaker I think the bass response is good. Compared to a larger speaker, of course it isn't as good. I am not disappointed with buying these. I can't imagine a speaker this size handling any more bass.
Pros: Comes with lots of wire. Bass is great for a 4 inch speaker. Grilles look great.
It took less than 15 minutes to remove and install. Best sound from a great brand. Thanks Crutchfield for having this in stock.
Hard to beat for the price.
Pros: Easy to install, $.
Amazing midrange speaker! High quality and worth the hu
Pros: Loudness Bass Simple installation
Perfect replacement for the destroyed old factory speakers in my 1994 Isuzu Rodeo. The new ones are crisp and clear. Now I want to replace the other 2 up front. Maybe even add a subwoofer but for now these get the job done at a price that won't break the bank.
Pros: Fit like a glove and sound great.
These are very nice sounding speakers--hopefully, they will last too. They fit into my 1993 Tercel's doors with no problem, though the speaker covers are too small & the mars from the original covers show--really need to have the original covers for my application. Bottom line: nice sounding speakers @ a nice price. 2 Thumbs up.
Bought these speakers to match my receiver output which was mismatched with previous speakers. World of difference; now have great sound at all volume levels. Very easy to install in my 2002 Jeep TJ. Very satisfied.
Great sound for such a small speaker. thanks to my advisor and Crutchfield.
Love the speakers
Pros: Good products
Cons: N nothing bad to say
Nice little speakers for the price. Although the website says it "Does Not Fit" my car....they are a direct drop in replacement for the rear 4" speakers behind the seats of my BMW Z3 Roadster. My factory speakers were even 4 ohm ...and I was thinking they were going to be 2 ohm.
Pros: Nice quality speaker and grills for such a small price.
Cons: None that I can tell. Don't expect any bass from a 4" speakers though.....that's just common sense.
Pretty loud for being so small. The speaker seems to be built very good. Good materials, nice sound and great price!
Pros: Well built, loud for it size and great price.
Cons: Not much bass but hey, its only a 4" speaker!
Great sound for the size, good quality, well built and an affordable price!
sound great would buy again
works great easy install, but best of all great sound
I was in love with my Boston Acoustics 402's that I had installed in the kick-panels of my '76 BMW 2002 years ago. I repaired the cones and went to stupid lengths to keep them alive because of their very 3D imaging. I thought I'd try these sturdy little RF's in another '02 I own. All I can say is WOW...these things make me wonder why I resisted change for so long! The R14x2's work great for me...to supplement another pair of full range rear speakers. Their sound is very good for their size and price...excellent value. Most of all, the imaging is great for bringing sound out from the foot area. As a bonus, the metal grills work well in the kick panels. I'll be ordering 2 more pair for my other '02's. Very, very happy. Of course, Crutchfield is fabulous to work with.
Pros: price, sound, build quality, imaging
Good price and the speakers are of good construction with nice sound. I dont listen to my music with high volume and high bass so not sure how they would handle that type of stress. But for me, these speakers are great.
Pros: Good price, good construction and quality sound.
Cons: the covers that were sent are very, meh. if i were RockfordFosgate I would provide metal mesh covers which are nicer.
Good upgrade from factory speakers for the price!
They fit in the Dash of the old car with just a little opening up of the stock hole. Fit in with the stock covers so looks the same and way better sound!
Pros: Sound I got from them.
Used these to replace some tiny 3" speakers in rear of a Smart Car (451). Pulled side panels, using pattern supplied cut a larger hole for the massive magnets. It's a very shallow space, but mounting the ON top of the panel with the supplied hardware, they fit like a dream! Even with the OEM head unit (car has optional 'Surround Sound upgrade), the sound is flat amazing for a 4" speaker. With the tiny cabin, I can now here the rears! Best hour project and moneyI have spent in a long time.
Pros: For their size, good punch and lower range. Look excellent and work well with the rest of the system.
Great little replacement speaker to for the stock ones. The sound is just about the same as the stock speakers and they mount right up to the stock location. No modifications needed.
Pros: Fits Right to stock location. Good sound
Cons: none so far.
Cons: Screws for the brackets
It is holding up, the head unit having the options to set cross over frequencies definitely helped getting the most out of this 4" two way. Its only for mids and high, so I wasn't expecting much bottom from it. I'm satisfied with it and will by more Rockford Fosgate speakers in the future.
Pros: Proper fit, quick connection.
These were put in a postal jeep as the others had seen better days. Also put in a JVC stereo with handsfree bluetooth phone capabilities. Both are performing as hoped. The other great thing is the hardware needed for install is provided by Crutchfield, and in my case, without extra cost.
Pros: Great speakers for the money so far.
Cons: None known of yet.
Nice speaker for the price. Fit well in my car which has very limited space for speakers.
Pros: Nice sound for its small size. Good-looking speaker, fits well in car.
Cons: Not much bass, but to be expected from a speaker this size.
The speakers do not sound any better than the factory Mexico speakers
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The speakers were direct fit but I did have to modify the mounting tabs a bit as it didn't fit the original screw pattern. The wire adapter made connecting a breeze, you will need to put a wire tie on it as it does not snap lock into the original connector. The sound was great!!
Pros: good sound for the price, wire adapter included no charge.
Cons: a little work to install
Pros: Great product well built rockford fosgate are great a great buy for the money
I bought these speakers because they are a perfect fit on the original door panel openings of my MGB without cutting.. Their performance is very good for a 4" transducer.
Pros: Compact, good quality for a reasonable price, nice looking.
Cons: Average bass response
Changing from factory to aftermarket,my daughter has now discovered how music is supposed to sound. So in a nut shell,get Rockford fosgate speakers
Cons: None what so ever
Very good selection for this aplication. Sound is much better than the 37 year old Becker speakers they replaced. I spent a great deal of time looking for speakers that would fit the dash opening without any modification since original speakers were 100mm. These speakers went in without any modification to the dash. The factory speaker grills also fit over these speakers without modification.
Pros: They fit! Great speakers for anyone thinking of replacing the original factory speakers in any 1973 - 1989 Mercedes Benz SL. They fit perfectly and are a good value at this price.
Cons: No "plug and play" harness available for my aplication.
These sound ok at low to medium volume. Turn it up and the distortion becomes more than evident. They may be fine for grandmas Volvo but you Rock and Roll loving head bangers are going to be disappointed in these speakers at anything more then moderate volume. They just cant handle the power (which can be said for most 4" speakers) They claim 30 watts RMS 60 watts peak... It's closer to 20 watts RMS and 40 Peak - which doesn't bode well when you feel the need to crank it up. I'll be seeking a refund and other speakers.
Pros: Good looking speaker with nice protective grill included along with the speaker wires and mounting screws.
Cons: Poor sound quality at anything above "medium" volume. Not enough bang for your buck.... If they sounded a good as they looked I would have given them 5 stars.They won't even make decent sound when pushed with a mediocre amp... Less than 30 watts of useable power though they claim 60 peak.
Nice sound for Price
Pros: easy replacement
Using Crutchfield support to spec out new replacement Speakers (x6), AMP, and Sub to coincide with a new VX7012 Radio for a 93 Deville, these speakers were identified for front Dash location. The install was painful as the existing fiberglass pocket under the dash pad was not large enough to pass the larger magnet, attached resistor, and actual terminal/connectors through the existing hole. Patience and an hour or so with a dremel to strategically enlarge the fiberglass sub-structure under the Dash pad was my resolve. Once installed, and a rather large mess was cleaned up, sound was superb from these larger than tiny OEM speakers (even without the amp fired up). I'm confident all installs will not be as painful as mine, though if any consolation... it was well worth the effort! Thanks Crutchfield.
Pros: Well Built Speakers Well Packaged Price Adapter plates were included with speaker purchase 1 pair of OEM speaker connector harness included with speaker purchase Superb sound (for my taste)
Cons: Was not an easy install into existing 1993 Sedan Deville - Dash location
Great sounding speakers and super easy installation!
I have had trouble finding 4" speakers that fit behind the door panels of my VW Jetta. The Crutchfield fit guide said these would so I was a little skeptical but they actually did. And they sound great, much better than stock!
Great speakers for the price. Don't expect huge bass, but great upgrade from factory.
These were purchased for a Honda audessey and installed in the mid section. Not too many speakers available for this small area 4" only. Good clear sound much better than the old factory ones.
Pros: Good fit - improved sound clarity.
Cons: Not a bass type speaker.
I got these at a great price. They will do what I needed them to do. No punch, but they are 4" speakers. What would you expect? Only had them for a few weeks, may update later.
Dropped these little guys perfectly into my Grand Prix's 4" rear deck openings, turned on the radio, and oh, the clarity! These sound amazing for such little speakers. Even when I cranked the volume far past my normal listening levels, there was no distortion in sound. Great value from the team at Rockford Fosgate.
Pros: Great sound, even better price. Crutchfield shipping is always top-notch.
Cons: My car wouldn't let me use the aftermarket speaker grills without some serious dremel work. Other than that, nothing whatsoever.
Excellent speakers, great sound and they went in with no problem!
Pros: Great replacement speakers for factory
Cons: I can't think of any
easy install sound great
Clear sound, easy to install with wire kit.
Pros: Price, wire kit and hard wear that comes with them.
Great sound - small packege
Pros: Excellent value
Speakers fit and sound great. Fast shipping.
Pros: Good for the price.
I was looking to replace some speakers, i did a search online found the speakers that fitted and clicked to buy. The experience was quick and easy and the purchase was here within 48 hrs. This was a great buying experience.
Pros: easy and quick
Great sound quality for the price. Replaced stock Chevrolet Silverado speakers with these and was amazed at the sound quality.
It sounds great and easy to install...
Pros: Great sounds from out of the box.. The installation Kit Crutchfield made installation very simple.. It also came speaker plug from Crutchfield.. It sounds way better than stock speaker.. I m am very happy camper now
Blown away was not expecting that sound from such a small speaker
Pros: Small Clean very attractive Crisp
Rockford Fosgate is always a top brand speaker! Prime, however, is the lowest of their speaker line. They do, however keep a very good quality and sound! I'm satisfied with my speakers. I got what I paid for and what I expected
Pros: Good Quality,
Installed in a tight spot in an MGB. Very good sound for such a small speaker. Not a lot of base but much better than I expected from a four inch speaker.
Pros: very balanced sound with excellent clarity, well made, classic grills with metal mesh, wire and mounting screws included
Looking to upgrade the nasal sound in my 2015 Chevy Spark EV, I purchased these units. Crutchfield did not have a listing for compatible speakers, but others on the web had similar installs with these speakers. They are definitely more efficient than stock front drivers, clear in the mid and highs. I did not expect much bass, they are very small. I had to remove the small stock plastic ported enclosure and snap off two of the new speakers mounting tabs for it to work. Crutchfield supplied terminal adapters at no cost, so no real modifications to the car. In all fairness to Chevrolet, the stock speakers could probably use some dampening material in the plastic cup enclosure and eliminate some of plastic coloration. I am happy with the price/performance of these units.
Pros: Great price to performance, definite upgrade to stock units.
Cons: Not real bass performers, but what do you want from such a small speaker?
After I was able to get the speakers installed they sound great. Great clarity and true sound with no distortion with high volume. I probably could've gone with a bigger speaker as these barely fit the hole in my door. The website also said I didn't need an adapter to mount them to the door, but one would've made the install easier. I had to drill new holes and use the brackets with the speakers. I matched these with the Rockford Fosgate Prime R152-S component speakers in the front.
Pros: Great sound and bass.
Cons: speaker wire that came with speakers was too small of gauge. Just threw it out and spliced the wiring adapter from Crutchfield into car's wiring and connected them to speakers.
Doesn't hit as hard as I expected it to but the clarity is excellent
Pros: Very balanced
Cons: Lacks a little umph
Speakers themselves are not bad but they are overwhelmed by the front speakers in my application. I suppose that was my fault though for ordering smaller speakers... The main gripe i had was that these were advertised as direct fit with adaptors sent by crutchfield. However, they needed custom brackets made. To be fair to Crutchfield, they quickly shipped me several sets of adaptors which the service advisor thought may work but i still had to modify one of them to get the speakers to fit.
Pros: great price, clear sound
Cons: If you have an 04 Subaru WRX, check the construction under your door panel before ordering so you know if custom mounts are needed. little to no bass
So far so good but can't really tell the difference between my factory boss speakers and the fosgate
Pros: Look great clear sound
Cons: Hard to tell difference between factory and aftermarkets
Great factory replacement for the budget minded
Pros: Easy installation in factory 4x6 opening with included adapter plate
HOW CAN YOU GO WRONG WITH ROCKFORDS? USED FOR FRONT DOOR INSTALL IN MY '98 AUDI.AND WITH VERY LITTLE FABRICATION THEY FIT PERFECTLY.THE SOUND IS GREAT FOR WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT I PAID
Fits perfectly in my classic truck and sounds awesome.
Pros: All good
These small speakers sound great and look great top-mounted with the included grilles.
Pros: Great sound. Grilled included.
They're great speakers I haven't had any problems with them and they were easy to install.
Pros: Great sound, good highs and lows. Easy installation, good price.
Cons: None I have come across.
Easy installation and Sounds great. Easy fit once you get the door clips undone.
Pros: Sound. Ease. - Plug and play!
These speakers clip out at higher volumes. If you like annoying people with loud music, calling attention to yourself, and getting attention from the cops, then these aren't for you. These speakers are good for enjoyable listening at reasonable volume and effortlessly handle higher frequencies
Pros: Good for personal listening.
Cons: Not good for loud music
I would highly recommend these speakers. Great sound for the price!
Better the stock speaker
Pros: Good sound for mid range
Cons: Tight fit for front speaker location.
Installed these in my grandfathers 93 geo tracker. Put 4 of these 4 inch rockford fosgate speakers in it and it sounds so much better! Had old kenwoods in it. Will be getting more of them in other sizes for other vehicles.
Pros: Clear sound, very well built,
Nice speakers for the money. They sound great and were not that difficult to install.
Pros: Sound great
Cons: Not a drop-in replacement. 4 self- tapping screws took care of the mounting.
Great pairing with Rockford R165X3. Needed screws in addition to what was provided with speakers to install in rear pillar for 2002 Chevrolet1500 regular cab with provided bracket.
These speakers have amazing sound quality and are crystal clear. I have them in my front doors of my Lexus SC and they are great! They were easy to install and I have no complaints or regrets on this purchase.
Pros: Easy to install, great sound quality and clarity
Awesome sound as always!!!
I like these speakers. If you're looking to replace the factory ones, these are the ones.
speaker sound is very tinny with little or no bass response
The speakers were priced right and seem to work great for the price in my 13 Silverado, this was a nice upgrade with factory stereo. They are a little more work to install in rear factory mounts but sound good.
This speaker may work well for a different application. This was my fault, I was looking for good quality speaker to go in the rear doors of my 2004 GMC Sierra. Looking though the Crutchfield website I was under the impression that the only size that would fit without cut a larger hole. Once again this was my fault, I should have looked further, The existing cut out is 4x6 that is the size that I should have ordered. Back to the Fosgates, their sound is very clear but very low and I don't mean low as in base I mean Low as in volume. As far as base they had virtually no base. But then again they are a 4" speaker. If you have room for a 4" speaker and what some good clean mid ranges and highs these are a good speaker.
Pros: Good clear mid-range and highs
Cons: No Base. then again it's only 4"
I received these speakers in a timely manner and well packed for shipping. I decided to write this review based on my installation of product for a 1999 Toyota Avalon with the stock Altec Lansing 7 speaker system. Sofar I have 1 of the 2 spkrs installed in passenger side/front. I left the stock tweeter connected. I can't tell much of a difference between the stock mid and the 2 way Fosgate. I'm sure with more power it might prove to be better than stock one for loud volumes. There will be a thin gap the circumference of speaker after mounted. You will have to refoam the little air vent next to speaker or just leave it without like i did. Clearance is fine for front doors with speaker. Mounting is troubling though. If you are fine with 2 screws to hold it it's fine, however there is not enough width in the molded plastic to mount more than 3 screws if your lucky. All in all it was fun to install speaker and compare it to stock. If you don't plan to upgrade your head unit or amplify these the stock Altec Lansing system is comparable in my opinion. I think to hear the value of these speakers it might take toward their max. rms input and a sensitive ear to details based on my particular install situation. I am sure that these speakers will be a definate upgrade for many cars but not so much in my case.
Pros: Sound on par with the stock 'premium' ones when installed solely replacing factory speaker and leaving fact. tweeter in. Probly better sound with higher wattage. crisp highs and decent low end for size.
Cons: No cons. At this time I just can't tell much difference in sound based on my test setup.
Really like my replacement speakers. Audio quality much improved over factory speakers.
Pros: highs and mids much better. Easy installation using existing wiring.
Cons: Could use more bass response.
These speakers are amazing. They get loud without distortion.
Pros: Good quality sound.
speakers sound amazing and you can put them any where
Pros: great sound
|Tweeter Design||1/2" Dome|
|Parts Warranty||1 Year|
|Labor Warranty||1 Year|
|Sensitivity (1W at 1 meter)||85|
|Sensitivity at 2.83 volts||88|
|Frequency Response||100 - 20k Hz|
|Minimum RMS Wattage||2|
|Maximum RMS Wattage||30|
|Peak Power Handling (Watts)||60|
|Top-mount Depth (Inches)||1 11/16|
|Bottom-mount Depth (Inches)||1 7/8|
|Cutout Diameter or Length (inches)||3 5/8|
Tweeters: Each speaker features a 1/2" Silk dome tweeter. The embedded design maintains the correct phase relationship between the tweeter and woofer, and doesn't add to the speaker's overall height.
4/2 Hole Compatibility: The speakers' mounting tabs can be removed, allowing installation in 4-hole or 2-hole applications. Please refer to the Crutchfield Car Selector to confirm fit for your vehicle.
Klippel Analysis: By using a state-of-the-art Klippel Distortion Analyzer, Rockford Fosgate engineers can optimize the speaker's motor structure, voice coil alignment, and suspension for the best possible performance and the lowest distortion.
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I no longer have the vehicle these were purchased for and never installed the baffles. Sorry I could not help. [ Matthew Dec 04, 2017 ]
For additional details on fit or installation please contact an Advisor by phone (1-800-324-9695) or online chat. They will be able to pull up your vehicle and give you the details on if this will fit and what you will need for an installation in your vehicle. [ Kenny Sep 16, 2017 ] Staff
You can check to see if this will fit your vehicle by using our Outfit My Car tool: http://www.crutchfield.com/car/carselector.aspx For additional details on fit or installation please contact an Advisor by phone (1-800-324-9695) or online chat. They will be able to pull up your vehicle and give you the details on if this will fit and what you will need for an installation in your vehicle. [ Kenny Sep 06, 2016 ] Staff
You can check to see if this will fit your vehicle by using our Outfit My Car tool: http://www.crutchfield.com/car/carselector.aspx For additional details on fit or installation please contact an Advisor by phone (1-800-324-9695) or online chat. They will be able to pull up your vehicle and give you the details on if this will fit and what you will need for an installation in your vehicle. [ Jeff Feb 22, 2016 ] Staff
Hi it's Steve. The stock speakers look like 4". I have not taken them out yet to measure. I have a number of people that want to change speakers and they are waiting to see what I find that will sound good without breaking your budget. [ Steve Apr 22, 2014 ]
I forwarded your question to an Advisor and they responded with the following: The best option would be the Polk Audio DXi525's. These will be more marine grade than any other manufacturer that we carry. If you would like to discuss further you can contact an Advisor directly by phone (1-800-324-9695) or online chat. [ Krissy Apr 13, 2014 ] Staff