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Crutchfield: The Podcast Ep. 20

Carlos and his drones

In this episode:

J.R. talks to Carlos, one of our in-house drone experts, about growing up in Puerto Rico, his drone-racing experience, and what brought him to Crutchfield. From great starter drones for kids to professional-grade drones, Carlos also shares some of his favorite picks.

For more drone recommendations, check out this year's buying guide which also includes tips related to drone safety, laws, and regulations.

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Hello and welcome everybody to yet another episode of Crutchfield, the podcast. I'm your host JR on the sales training manager here at Crutchfield with me today. One of my favorite coworkers. Eric I feel like I might be one of your only coworkers lately. We see a lot of each other in these times, don't we? We do. We see a lot of each other on our screens. We are not, I haven't seen any other coworkers uh, in a long time now. It's been a while, has been a while. That's okay though, that we're making this work. So we are here today with another episode. The point of Crutchfield the podcast is to talk to our employees of which we have many and we are growing. There are I think somewhere in the neighborhood of six or 700 employees. Hard to keep up. And our guest today, the person that I interviewed for this episode, easily one of my all time favorite Crutchfield employees. Uh, he is awesome. His name is Carlos. He's been with us for just a few years now. And uh, he, he came to the mainland of the United States from Puerto rico a few years back and very soon thereafter got a job here at Crutchfield. You're gonna hear him tell that story in the interview of just how we got Carlos and he's quite the renaissance man. He's got so many varied experiences, both in work and in just his personal interest. One of the things, one of the areas of specialty for Carlos is the area of drones, which is a pretty kind of, it's a pretty cool category of product that we, I mean, it's the only one that flies that I know of. Yeah, they fly right off the shelves certainly. And I was interested to hear how he's putting that knowledge to use in his current position. It's really cool when you can bring people into Crutchfield that have those life experiences that they can bring to us and make us better in a category. We've seen it in other categories as well. But I can tell you our knowledge as a company on drones is better off for having Carlos with us for short percent. No, he's been involved in the, there's a couple articles on crutchfield dot com about drones like a drone buying guide as well as one where he and the video team went out to some quarry and they flew drones around and they used an underwater drone and stuff like that. That's Carlos in the video. The guy you're gonna be hearing us talk to here in a second. I think we should get right into it. This is enough enough of you and me wasting everybody's time. Let's get right into to me talking to Carlos. Let's, let's kind of back it up a little bit and let's start at the beginning. As far as how did you come to crutchfield? I used to live in Puerto rico where back into september 2017. It got hit by a really hard storm, a hurricane, which uh you know, I guess that everybody knows about it right. You know Puerto rico got devastated and you lived there at the time of the hurricane And uh and what was that like? Uh it was pretty hard you know, uh not having electricity. Um there was locked down so you couldn't go outside of your property uh after you know sundown. Um, so it was hard just trying to go out, find some food, find you know gas or fuel for your generators for the people that had generators. Uh and when you try to go out to buy, you know any groceries or any fuel or gas, you know, you have to be at least three or four hours in line to be able to get something right. So it was hard times. Uh I used to work for Toyota and at that moment most of the island right? You know everything stopped everything that was not important, stop working. Most of the businesses were trying to, you know get the business back and running. You know, everything was destroyed, right? I was helping people repairing generators uh and helping clean out some roads and that kind of things. And uh and so you had a trip planned out of Puerto rico already like before the hurricane even happened. Yes, I did. My sister in law had been living in Virginia, especially in Charlottesville for a couple of years and we normally came on vacation once a year at least. So we are already our tickets and all that. We came down. We spend some time here. We met with the pastor of a church and he, you know, we're just talking, he just looked at me and he said, you know what, you know, I'm looking at you and all that comes to my, my mind. It's, you know, Crutchfield, you know, why don't you call Crutchfield and uh, with all that you do, you know, even though you're actually working with cars or in the car industry, you know, everything that you like, it sounds like Crutchfield. Uh, you should give him a call and you know, I reached out, uh, I fill out an application and to be completely honest, I wasn't expecting anything. I wasn't expecting at all. They were, they, you know, they were pretty straightforward. You know, they didn't have any opening at the moment for what, you know what I was looking for. Um, and then I remember it was Christine from, from our HR department, right? That reached out and the next day, uh, I came back to Puerto rico, you know, I saw that email, I was like, what? Uh, this is really happening? Uh, and you know, I contact them, you know, we talked a lot. They were wonderful and you know, they offered me, um, a position at Crutchfield. Um, even something better that I might have been looking for. You know, I, I sat down with my family because, you know, it was a big move, it's a fresh start, but it's a little bit harder. So I was, again, I was super blessed uh, that I was able to start right almost when I came back to Virginia, it's been an amazing experience since then. So the job you ended up getting hired for was spanish and international sales advisor, is that right? And uh, and that's when I met you was when you came in and we did three months of sale of sales training and I mean you seem to know everything there was to know about car stereo installation, you knew the products just like, it was like, it was almost effortless to watch. You just sort of get into the role of being a sales advisor and you were able to talk knowledgeably about the products, You were able to do it in both languages, spanish and english. Uh, you, you, you helped others in the class. Uh, it makes me wonder, did I even teach you anything in training or like you did? Yeah, you did. Even though you always thought that you had never teach me anything, you actually did. I, I learned a lot. I uh, I've been interested in cars since I was pretty young. Um, my dad passed away when I was eight years old, so I technically was raising this. Now. I would, I don't want to say in the street in a bad way, right? I was always out with my friends, my neighbors were all order Older than me. So you know, they already had cars license while I was already playing with my games and stuff. So, um, you know, I used to play with my games a little bit and then, you know, go out with them, you know, work on their cars. So I started, you know, you know, racing and working on cars. I believe I was like 12 years old old. Um, and you learned the streetwear, right? There's no right way there just make it work and it's working. Uh, but definitely I learned how to do things right with you. So I sort of help you understand what you already knew more or less. Yes. Yeah, I'll take that. Uh, the fact that I was able to help you learn anything is I'll take it. That's a win in my book. Tell me about drones. I think the main reason I wanted to talk to you today was to talk about drones because it's a specific passion of yours. Right? It is, it is, I'm kind of passionate about the drone. I don't know if you remember this, the parrot, uh, drone that was like huge. Hey eric, let's talk about the early days of drones for just a second. I really didn't foresee where this was going. Uh, and boy, there's a drone for everything now. Yeah. At the beginning to, you know, they didn't have some of the cool features like they have today, like obstacle avoidance and return to home? I was scared to even think about flying those first drones because they were harder to fly. You really have to know your stuff when it comes to pitch and yaw and all of that stuff and drones now, they've got like almost autopilot modes on there where you, you can, you don't need to know how to fly an airplane to fly a drone, it's so much easier now and more accessible now. The image quality looks better, the batteries last longer, the controllers are cooler and all of its less expensive now too and I got pretty interesting in how they work, how they, how you know how you flew them? I started taking them apart, learning how they work. Uh and then the drone racing industry came, there was four rooms in facebook all over the place, you know how you could do F. T. V. And all that stuff. Um so we started messing around with that. I partnered with a friend, you know, he had a business uh designing parts for D. J. I four D Gi drums. Uh so we used to make aluminum arms for those drones, right? It made them a lot more steady. Uh so you know, again, my passion started there, I think it was back in probably 2011 or 2012, something like that. So drone racing, was this like like an official, like a drone racing league, that kind of thing? Or was this just you and your friends? Racing drones? Like what is that world of drone racing like for you? Um So when this started uh there was no platform, there was nothing around the world like that. People just started messing around installing cameras, ftp cameras in drones. Uh We used some monitors. Uh it uses uh it used uh you know, wifi band to stream the video signal between the drone and the display. So we used to use some displays and before there were no cameras that could be angled or anything like that, so everything was fixed, uh and it was straightforward, so every time every time you try to go forward you were looking at the ground instead of looking forward. So, you know, we used uh I don't know if, you know, like r. C cars, like gasoline RC cars, So I remember we used the gas line, the robert gas lines, uh and zip ties to strap the camera on the drone and angle, being able to angle the camera upwards, so when you push the drone forward or to go forward, you were able to see forward. Uh and then, you know, all that start started changing. Um people were designing uh camera mounts at fixed angle or camera mounts that you were able to program with the servo so that the server would move the camera uh Same way as, you know, you were tilting the drone forward to move forward. So it was kind of cool, so like the servo would respond to a, like a gyroscope that was built in, correct, It will respond to the gyroscope that was, that came with the flight controller. Right? And depending on the angle the drone was, the serval would angle the camera so it could still see forward. And it sounds like you've built a gimbal mount out of gasoline lines from a remote control car, built the first gimbal made out of rubber lines. We used to test anything we could do right at the beginning um to make it work all right. Eric let's talk about some of these terms that are being thrown around here by Carlos as if we all just understand what FP V means. What a servo. A gyro, a gimbal, you want to take any of those, What do you want to explain any of those terms for the, for the masses out there? Sure. Well, F. P V. Uh that is talking about uh stands for first person viewing or first person viewer, maybe first person view. Um but basically that's goggles. So you are kind of living in virtually living in your dream and you're flying it around and you've got a headset on and you see what's right in front of it and, you know, for the folks that are racing drones that's definitely their preferred way of navigating them. And you know, we sell uh some headsets that are add on for some of the drones from D. J. I. Um so, you know, I know we've talked with us folks that prefer that, so you don't have to worry about the sun, you're really almost connected to that flying experience with that. So that's what F. P. V. Is and and F P V is kind of like you mentioned it for racing, it's critical for rate, like you couldn't really race a drone without using first person view goggles, because when you're looking through the goggles, you're looking through the camera that's on the drone. And so your perspective is always from the front of the drone. So when you're looking at it that way and you you turn your controllers little controller thing left, Your drone goes left. In your perspective from what you're seeing, it's going left and you turn right, it's going right. If you don't have F. P. V. If you're just flying the drone with, you know, you can see a drone in the air and you are controlling it when the drone is flying away from you and left is left. But when the, when the drone is flying back towards you left is right, you need to remember that right. And so first person view eliminates that uh you don't have to dedicate brainpower to remembering which direction the drone is going before you hit that controller, It's just a natural way to fly as if you were the pilot. Uh so yeah, what's a what's a servo? I don't know if either one of us could define a servo. Here's what I think it is. I think it's one of those things that's like controlled, like that moves something, right? It's a thing that turns or spins that makes something move uh and it's computer controlled. Yeah, I'm revealing how much, I don't know. I see you googling it now, let's see if I'm even close to is a servo. Are you looking for servo puns now? Is that what you're doing while you're looking up servo? I can tell you what a gyro is. It's usually it's usually lamb and Tzatziki sauce. Uh and most people pronounce it hero, I grew up calling them. Giro's a more technical sort of gyro is is a gyroscope, which you would find inside the drone which can monitor the movement of the drone. Uh and it can detect if it's going up down left or right. If it's going too fast, it can detect, it's a thing that detects movement and you'll find it in cameras uh something that will help keep a camera's image stabilized. A gyro can help with that? Uh Giro's are pretty important in the world of unmanned aircraft, like drones. Did you figure out what what google says the servo is, I don't I don't think we need to get into the details, but if you don't have a server and you have two motors and the thing gets a little cockeyed, it's just gonna keep on going, right. Those propellers need to move at different speeds to kind of balance it. And it's part of that process. Yeah, a servo motor is what we're talking about, right? So, uh, and the servo can make things happen, like you mentioned, uh, like on an airplane, if a flap needs to go up or down, right, a servo is the thing that moves the flap up or down and the servo has a controller. The servo is dumb. It doesn't know what it's doing, it just knows it's moving because electricity and some sort of message told it too. So, All right, the last one I want to talk about and I know you can just do this one with not having to google it. What's a gimbal mount? So, a gimbal mounts kind of like the joint where the camera hooks onto the drone and it basically just provide stability for that camera, Like crazy stability for that camera so that the camera is, continues to stay on on a single plane, even if, say the drone is tilted slightly because it's turning. Um and they've come a long way uh you know, movie makers have used them for years to keep movie cameras stable and you know, they are pretty awesome. We carry handheld ones for D SLRs or for cameras or for phones rather. Um and of course it's a really important part of being able to enjoy the footage that you're shooting with the drone and it's one of the things that we're kind of missing on some of those first generations of drones and uh you know, D. G. I make such a good one that they also sell them for handheld devices as well. Yeah, it's yeah keep the camera steady when it's mounted to a thing that's moving. I like it. Then I started messing around with three D printers um and I started printing, you know, drum parts on my end. Uh Then it came to talking about the drone racing a little bit more down in Puerto rico, I was president of the Puerto rico drone racing association. Right? So I used to design with a friend, you know, all the courses that we were gonna fly and all that stuff, Puerto rico got to compete in new york and with many other teams. But yeah, Puerto rico, it was very popular. We were flying into the United States constantly. Uh I would say florida new york and many, many other states to compete against each other. Have you continued drone racing at all? That's one of my passions, I wouldn't let go. I I really love messing with jones I guess. Uh I'm what's called an adrenaline junkie. I used to have racing cars and messing around with motorcycles and that kind of thing, surfing, body boarding after I learned and I uh felt that the adrenaline that drone racing could give you right. I felt it was uh the best and safest way to feel that an adrenaline rush, you crashed a drone, you know, it's just your drone. I have seen you fly your racing drone, you brought it to Crutchfield, we got to see you flying around in the back and I mean, I know the adrenaline rush that I felt just flying like a regular, you know, commercial, like, like a drone that we sell and just flying that anywhere near a tree. And I was getting like nervous that I was gonna crash it into a tree or something even though I was probably 30 ft away, I was nervous and this, this is a slow moving drone, I'm nowhere near actually hitting something and the adrenaline rush is there uh, watching you fly these things, It's like, it's like you're a fighter pilot flying these things except it's more nimble, it's faster, right? That experience of looking through the, the 1st 1st person goggles, it's incredible and I don't, I don't know how you do, I don't know how you're so fast. Like uh I missed out on the whole video game thing. I'm a little older and I just wasn't interested in video games, so I don't have that whole, you know, game control, thumb, uh, you know, quick twitch motions that you guys have, I just, I just never got that. So, but it kind of takes that right to be able to fly the drones as fast and as nimble as you guys are. Well, to be completely honest, you know, for a gamer, it's a lot easier, I would say, right, uh I would say I am not a gamer, so it took me a little bit at the beginning, right? Uh the good side of it is that you're able to go into the programming side of the drone and adjust the controller movement on your response. So if you're slow with your fingers, let's put it that way, right? When you're working with with the controller, uh you are able to adjust that movement. So the drone response a little bit different. So you can tailor it to your personal abilities, correct? That's pretty awesome. After flying drones that you built, that feel like you're flying like a fighter pilot, how much fun could it possibly be to fly? Just like a normal drone? That any average joe could buy drones are amazing to fly, right? It's just, it's going to give you a whole different experience and a whole different perspective. Um, flying a racing drone is like, again, getting into a, you know, 1000 horsepower car, right? You're you're in there, you feel the g force pushing you, obviously you're not going to feel the G force on the drone, right? But you fly, you can fly up to 100 MPH even more? Uh So it's, you know, you're trying not to crash, that's what you do. You're you're trying to go really fast and try not to crash and you try to go in between trees, in between branch, you know, doing loops. Yeah, so the drones that that we sell are not we don't sell the racing drones. In fact, like you built your own racing drone, like it's like that's kind of how that world works, what the drones that we sell at Crutchfield. Uh they're really more about the camera and getting these angles and getting shots, you can't get any other way right. And it's it's less about the adrenaline of flying a drone around and it's more about, let's see where you can get this drone to get a cool shot, correct, correct? We do sell part of the racing drone experience, right? Because we do have the uh we carry the D J I. F D V D bundle, so it's a controller, it's uh the DJ eye goggles for the F B. B. It comes with the racing unit, doesn't come with the drone, right? You have to build your own racing drone, but still the controller transmitter, video feed and all that. It's one of the best experience that you will have on the racing drone um area got you when you when you're doing those racing drones, do you record the video that you're shooting, or is it just so that you can see where you're flying. So it used to be that we installed a GoPro in the drone. Uh and you have to take that in consideration when you build the drone. Um you have to again take the way the final way that you have in the drone, so you purchase your motors to be able to hell that way, uh you purchase your battery to be able to withstand the motors, uh and the speed that you wanted to achieve, right um, with this uh, D J I F B B bundle that we sell, uh you can actually record from the video camera that's installing the drone as well as on the goal itself and it's crystal clear image. So no need to add a GoPro on it. Again, video recording is amazing and looks pretty awesome. So what drones do uh do you have, like, I'm picturing, like, I don't know, is there 30 drones in Carlos's household or like do we have enough time to talk about the drones? Specifically the drones that crutchfield cells that you guys have at home? Like what do you want to talk about? Their, what do you guys have? We do have the DJ Tell, oh, we do have uh the DJ Magic Pro we have uh, DJ Mavi to uh what else I have around, I have a phantom, that's what I have about for what we sell. So that's, that's kind of from, from kind of like good, better best. Right? You're really kind of working up there. So the intel o or the Tello is that's that's like a that's like a toy. Right? It uh it's small, it's lightweight. And does, is that the 11 of the ones your kids flies, correct? Yes, that's that's one for the kids. Uh they started, that's the one I give them. So they, they want to cratchit, I don't mind. And I know that's not going to do any harm to anything or any other vehicles, the house or anything like that. Right. It's also a little bit limited in terms of distance. Uh, so again, it's good, uh it's also a good drone because it's stable outside. So if there is a little bit of wind, still going to be able to hold up, it's a really good starter drone just to get the idea of how to fly a drone and uh and then you move up from there to the to the maverick and the pro and uh then all the way up to the phantom, that's kind of a big boy, isn't it? It's, it's a big boy. It's good, although I do prefer the maddox Maddox, you know, they're awesome tools, I would say. Uh because of their foldable arms, it's, it's a lot easier to carry around the phantom, you know, it's a fixed drone, so it's, it's, you know, it requires more space to carry it. So it's not an easy toy to bring around anywhere you want. Yeah those Mavericks fold up nice and tight, you can keep in a small bag, throw them in your backpack. It's almost like you don't even need to start with the starter drones because these Mavericks, they're not cheap drones but they're also not crazy expensive, right? We're not talking thousands of dollars here for like 1000 or less. You can get a pretty sweet drone. Uh That does a lot and the video looks amazing like you can really do some cool stuff with it, correct, correct? You're on the right direction. I I definitely love especially the D. J. I. The Magic Air ones. Uh they are outstanding drones. Uh It's a really good point to start in the drone industry, right? Uh It's like you said it's not crazy expensive yet again it's one of the safest uh and responsive drones I've ever flown, you know, when they started coming with uh Medicare, The first version. Now we're on the second version. Um First of all it was hard to crash second if you crash. Uh It was really really good at, you know, overcoming that unless one of the arms folding, it's my favorite to be honest. So you have moved up in the in the in your job from being a spanish international sales advisor you are now in our corporate sales division. So how is that job different from what you were doing before? Well as an inter international advisor, I used to work with, you know, our customers directly, I also helping the tech support team. So I was frustrating uh helping people with their issues with the gear, their purchase with us. Um I also helped and started uh the spanish tech support department. Um Of course you did and I can't think of anybody better to have possibly done that. Uh and then you got that going and uh and then you left and then you went to a different department. I did. Now I'm working with corporate sells um I am an account manager now helping our commercial design team work with their customers and you know help move our out our designs. And do you get much of an opportunity to talk about drones in your uh fortunately I do, being in the corporate side I get to talk to government agencies, police, uh police departments, fire departments to look for. Again, drones, the drones are new tools, the drones are tools that people are using for commercial use and for safety. Right uh with everything that it's been evolving in this uh platform right in the drone platform, um thermal imaging uh Again it it just keeps growing and it gives it opens new opportunities uh to this business to use it to help people, I always think of, you know a company that needs a drone, read like a real estate agent, right? They're going to sell 100 acre plot of land. They want to be able to have like a drone flight around it to show the border to show what it's on it. Show that there's a lake in the back and all that kind of stuff ordered, do a fly around of a house or something. But there's so many other uses for it besides just playing with a drone or taking cool videos with a drone or doing a real estate agent like the police and the fire, like the military, the park rangers. I mean, I can, yeah, I'm just all of a sudden it's just hitting me all of the ways that they could use these things, correct, correct and it just keeps evolving, right? It just keeps getting better. It is no surprise to me that Christina and Sarah in our HR department when they first met Carlos that they probably did everything they could to get you here to Crutchfield because I have never seen you without a smile on your face. Uh you seem to be excited about any opportunity that potentially comes around. And I just want to thank you for being on the show uh for being a person that I get to hang out with sometimes at Crutchfield. Uh, and for being here, man, you are, you are truly special. Thank you very much. J I really appreciate it. You know, I I feel great to be working with Crutch will. Again, it's it's a blessing for me and my family. I think we captured the magic of Carlos. I think so I remember the first time I met Carlos when he presented to the training class, kind of where he was from and how he got there and how he was new to Charlottesville. Um I tell you I ended up with a lump in my throat listening to him talk about his his life journey and uh you know, I'm super happy that he's here with us, making us all better at drones and other things. Let's continue the drone discussion a little bit. We've talked about this in previous episodes. You recently got a drone. And uh I'm I'm curious like how did you choose the drone you chose? Like what is it about that drone that you like? So I ended up with one of the Maverick Maverick two D. J. I drones and I like the size. Um it's not very bulky. So I was I've pictured myself being able to go like hiking with it maybe getting some pretty cool perspectives. Um So that's one of the things I liked about it and also in particular the one I have uh comes with a controller um which was certainly one of the things that I wanted to make sure that I had for myself. Um Also some drone, some drones, you actually control it like on the screen of your phone, like that's where you move your fingers around and then some of them have like a controller that you attach your phone to and your phone is just a screen, but you actually have like joysticks. Your controller is a step better than that. Yeah, so it comes with its own screen uh as part of the controller. And the thing that I liked about that for me is, you know, I also knew I was gonna be using it in and around my house and kind of filming my kids and I wanted to be able to make sure that my phone for me, I wanted it to stay uh kind of kind of separate, right? Uh Sometimes I control my music. I wanted to be able to receive messages uh from my phone without interrupting uh you know, any kind of control. So uh that was a decision for me, some people that's not gonna be that important too, but that's why I went with the one that I want with and it adds a little bit to the cost the controller with the screen. And it is going to be more expensive than a controller that uses your phone, right? But I I'm with you. I think I don't I don't think I would want to give up the ability to use my phone while I'm flying my drone around. Uh if someone calls, I need to be able to take it or uh Yeah, so yeah, I think it's I think that I think it's a wise choice, man how you like flying it has been, has it been pretty fun? Yeah, other than crashing into a tree, you know, behind your house at one time and uh you know, scaring my kids, you know, other than those things, it has been fun. I look forward to getting it out as the weather gets better and using it some more in the spring. So let's talk about how how do you know where you can fly a drone? Like there's rules, there's lots of rules, this industry is really evolving um and as a result uh you know, so are the rules that govern it? So I think it's important that, you know, for anyone that's thinking about buying one to, you know, take a look at uh you know, look at the FAA is website, make sure that they'll be able to fly it where they want to um you know, and just you know, you and I don't live that far apart. But the rules are definitely different uh from where I live to where you live because we have a, you know, airport that's in our proximity. So something to consider. There's some good websites out there. What what websites did you uh did you use? So we've got a couple of articles on Crunch dot com, One of them is a drone buying guide in that article is a link to the f a A. S. Website which has frequently asked questions. All the potential information you might need about drones, the rules, all the stipulations, all of those things are they're there because they're in charge of you know Federal Aviation Administration. So uh if it flies they know about it and so that's where you can get all the information. But there's also some other helpful uh apps and stuff you can get on your phone. I downloaded one earlier as we were getting ready for this episode. Uh It's called Before you fly is the name of the app I downloaded. And I'm looking at it, I'm looking at a map, it's showing me, you know like at my house. Uh and uh it says uh it's you know, just normal sort of restrictions. Although there's one additional restriction. Uh So note for anybody that cares, you know, podcasts don't have to be recorded the day that they go out, right? We're recording this on inauguration day. And I'm currently there's like there's like a temporary restriction that expires at the end of today, all having to do with the inauguration, which, you know, here in Charlottesville, we're about two hours from D. C. Which I guess is close enough when you're talking about air space that with a big deal like that happening not too far away. I don't want big drones flying around. You have a different one that you're using. Is that right? Yeah. I downloaded one called drone buddy, which also has like, uh, you know, along with those restrictions and also gives you speed of wind and things like that. So just really a lot of different considerations for folks that are, uh, you know, potentially flying a drone. So you can download the ahead of time. They're free downloads and you know, you kind of get an idea of the lay of the land around where it is. You want to fly a drone before you purchase it, yep. So if you're flying one of those little toy drones, anything under £10.55 so less than half a pound, there's no real restrictions on it. You can, you can let it do whatever it can do wherever you are. You know, flying around your house, fly around your yard. Even if you live near an airport, like it's not that big a deal because it's not dangerous. Anything bigger than that. You're really gonna want to be careful, make sure you know, before you fly what the deal is. And there's many ways to do that. Links in the show notes to articles on how to pick out your drone and how to find out what all you need to know about what you can do with it. Once you got it. I think that's it, my friend. Uh, you, uh, you good, you got anything else to say about drones before we, uh, we hang this thing up. I so want to try to figure out a drone. So I'll take that as a no. If anybody out there has any questions about drones, feel free to submit your questions on crutchfield dot com slash podcast. 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